New Pocket Snub: S&W 442

Webleymkv

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For a while now I've been thinking about a new snub so that my S&W M36 no-dash can take semi-retirement and join my Walther PP as a "dress gun". Not that I was dissatisfied with the M36, but the bluing is so nice that I've always had this nagging feeling that it's too nice to pocket carry routinely.

So, being that I got paid yesterday and had the day off today, I decided to spend the morning perusing local shops and see what I could find for what price. After visiting four local shops, the only J-Frame I managed to find in stock was a NIB 642 for $439 (a fairly routine price in my area). Somewhat disappointed in the lack of supply, I came home and relaxed for a bit. Then, on a whim, I decided to stop by another local shop which I don't frequent often. To my surprise, they had three NIB J-Frames: a 637, a 442, and a 642 with CT laser grips. I asked to look at the 442 just for kicks and to find out what the price was (for some reason, this shop doesn't put prices on their tags :rolleyes:).

Upon handling the gun, I immediately noticed two things: it did not have an internal lock (despite being NIB) and it was cut for moonclips. As it turned out, I was holding a 442 Pro Series. Upon inquiring about the price, I was quoted $469 + tax. After thinking for a moment, I decided that the extra features were probably worth an extra $30 and that I liked the look of the black finish better than the silver-colored one of the 642 so I bought the gun.

I don't really see myself getting attached to this gun like I did to my M36 (I still like the look of the regular spur hammer better), but then again that was kind of the point to begin with. The lack of a lock and moon clips aren't really a big deal to me, but I figure they might add a bit to the resale value of the gun if I decide to sell it later on (though I did go ahead and order a moon clip stripping tool and five additional clips from Brownells). So what does TFL think? Did I make a good deal?
 
If you can shoot it regularly at the gun range and tolerate the recoil, then yes. Personally, I would have stayed with the 36 because I like a little weight with my carry guns. I had the 442 on two different occasions and sold it both times. Just couldn't enjoy shooting it at all, and for me, it makes no sense carrying a gun that's painful to shoot. Men are probably different so I'm sure you'll enjoy it.

Laura
 
I use a 442-2, also a no lock, for pocket carry and a 640 Pro for holster carry on my hip. I like the extra weight, but the 442 is nice in the pocket.
I use WC's in the 442 as they are fine to shoot. The 640 also has WC's, but they are faster ones from BB. 850 FPS v. 750 FPS in the 442. These are from Double Tap.
I really like the enclosed models. I sold my M60 no dash in favor of the 640.

Best,
Rick
 
Been carrying a 442 for quite a few years now. When I first got mine, I didn't care for the trigger at all. Plenty of dry firing cured that problem. Found the same with the 642 that I carry on occasion.

Think you'll enjoy yours after you put some miles on it.
Congrats on your new ccw.
 
I retired my Walther PPKS as my BUG for 10 years on favor of a S&W 442. The PPKS was very accurate and reliable, but it was also much heavier than the 442. For me, my BUG is something that is carried a lot and fired seldom, so the weight savings was a big deal.
 
Faulkner, I think you sum up perfectly why the 442 didn't work for me. I don't buy guns just for carry, I actually like to shoot them, and often. Lightweight models just don't lend themselves to being a fun range experience which is why I prefer guns with a little heft.
 
I'll withhold final judgment on recoil until I've shot it (hopefully the weather will cooperate soon), but I don't see it being that big an issue for me. I'm not particularly recoil sensitive (50 rounds of .44 Magnum in one sitting isn't a problem for me) and this isn't the first lightweight snub I've owned and shot (I've previously owned a Colt Cobra). Honestly, I wouldn't be too surprised if I can shoot it better than my M36 because the grips fit my hands better (the smallish wood grips on the M36 don't really fit me that well, but they look and conceal so well that I couldn't bring myself to swap them out).
 
Webleymkv,

Sounds to me that you will enjoy your 442.

Far as recoil goes, I'm not recoil sensitive either. Every time I shoot, doesn't matter if I set out to shoot BP, other long guns or handguns, I always end my range session with a short session with my ccw. Just a habit I got into many years ago. That short session varies in rd count. Usually anywhere from 20-50rds. in 38sp. I'm usually concentrating more on defensive technique shooting rather then recoil and don't usually even notice the recoil.

One thing you'll notice about the 442/642 is the crappy/stiff trigger. Out of the box, the Ruger LCR has a much better feeling trigger. As you know, plenty of dry firing along with range work will smooth the 442 out well.
 
I've found my 642 is not bad to shoot with standard .38's, but the +P's are a little much.

My friend has a 340 which I shot with .357 rounds, it was terrible! I thought I wasnt recoil sensitive but I guess I just hadn't tried the right guns yet.
 
The gun you purchased is the one I have been trying to hunt down for a few months now. I was just in my LGS today looking again. I am less concerned with the moon clips but want a no-lock 442. I think you done good.
 
I sometimes carry lightweight snubbies, mostly a Colt Agent for a lightweight belt gun and a SW Model 38 for lightweight pocket carry. Both are in the "carry a lot, shoot a little" category. I'm less tempted to go without a gun sometimes than I would be with an all steel handgun.
 
I also have a 36 No Dash (nickled) that I love! I am always wondering about how tough the Nickled finish is? Does constant carry (mainly in a case in my Backpack) cause wear issues?
Honestly. the way I look at it is I bought the revolver for self defense and that's what it's built for, so why not carry it?
ZVP
 
I also have a 36 No Dash (nickled) that I love! I am always wondering about how tough the Nickled finish is? Does constant carry (mainly in a case in my Backpack) cause wear issues?

Well, I've been pocket carrying my M36 for almost five years now and the bluing shows no noticeable wear. Conventional wisdom is that, by and large, nickel is a more durable finish than blue so I would expect your M36 to wear at least as well, and probably a good bit better than mine. That being said, I've carried mine in well-fitting pocket holsters so the finish hasn't be subjected to excessive friction. Also, be careful about what solvents you clean your nickel guns with as some which remove copper (*cough* Hoppes No. 9 *cough*) can sometimes damage older nickel finishes.
 
I got a 642-2 a month ago and have only fired one shot so far, 158 gr +P.
Whoa Mamma! I can feel the recoil!

I think lighter bullets are in the future for that revolver.
 
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