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New Orleans cabbie kills armed car-jacker
- Thread starter bestdefense357
- Start date
Gee, I wonder if the late Mr. Binbilal:
1. Bought the gun legally
2. Has a record as long as your arm
3. Is possibly a convicted felon
4. Would have used a trigger lock if the law had been in force.
5. Add yours here ...
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The New World Order has a Third Reich odor.
[This message has been edited by Oatka (edited April 05, 2000).]
1. Bought the gun legally
2. Has a record as long as your arm
3. Is possibly a convicted felon
4. Would have used a trigger lock if the law had been in force.
5. Add yours here ...
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The New World Order has a Third Reich odor.
[This message has been edited by Oatka (edited April 05, 2000).]
Update - They could have used a better title:
http://www.nolalive.com/t-p/national/index.ssf?/t-p/national/0004050186.html
Cabbie not so brave after shootout
Cabbie says he'll watch who he picks up
By Richard Sine
West Bank bureau/The Times-Picayune
Terrel Johnson, a cab driver who grew up in the St. Bernard public housing complex, prided himself on his willingness to pick up fares almost anywhere, any time of night. He kept doing so, even after his cab-driving uncle was shot and seriously wounded in his taxi on New Year's Eve.
But Johnson is not so sure anymore. Not after he shot and killed a young passenger who he said attempted to carjack him early Monday. Johnson has not been charged in the incident, which he said was a case of self-defense.
Kamalaaluddeen Bin Bilal, 18, of Algiers, died after the two exchanged gunfire, New Orleans police said.
"A lot of people love me because I was going places nobody else was going. What made me so mad is I picked up (Bilal) in the French Quarter, and a lot of people say that's where you should work," he said. "You got to watch who you pick up in the French Quarter," too.
Johnson, 24, on Tuesday recounted the harrowing incident. Police recovered the two weapons and planned to consult the district attorney's office on the matter. A spokesman said prosecutors had not yet reviewed the case Tuesday.
Johnson's employer, Yellow Cab Co., defended the driver's action. "They think they can come and kill drivers, but this time the driver defended himself," said Haim Dahan, owner of the cab company and Dahan's Automotive Repair.
Dahan said many of his drivers carry guns. The law forbids drivers to turn down fares based on where they are picked up or where they want to go, but Dahan said he lets his drivers, who are independent contractors, use their own discretion.
Johnson said he picked up Bilal in the French Quarter Monday shortly before 1 a.m. and was asked to drive to Algiers. Upon arriving at the 3300 block of Lancaster Street, Bilal claimed he needed to go inside to get the fare. Johnson said Bilal walked up to the front of the house and then returned to ask the amount of the fare -- $16.30. But he didn't appear to knock on the door, Johnson said.
Bilal approached the front of the house, then turned toward the cab, Johnson said. That's when Johnson said he put his gun on his lap. "It didn't seem right no more," he said. Bilal pointed a gun at Johnson and asked him to raise his hands, Johnson said.
When Johnson asked if he wanted money, Bilal told him to turn the car off and get out.
"He said 'get out of the car, I'm gonna kill you,' " Johnson said. "When I moved to get up, he shot and I shot."
Matilda Claiborne, who lives with her husband, Allen, in the house where Bilal appeared to knock on the door, said she did not know Bilal and never heard a knock on her door, or ring from the doorbell. Instead, she and her husband heard shots and rushed out to see Bilal lying in the street. "The cab driver said he was calling the police," Claiborne said.
Claiborne said it was the first shooting she had heard of in her 27 years at the normally quiet River Park One subdivision in Cut Off, a neighborhood of modest ranch homes. "This is a once-in-a-lifetime thing," she said.
Bilal's family could not be reached for comment.
Johnson said he and his uncle are lucky to be alive. On New Year's Day about noon, Jerry Johnson was driving his cab along Duplessis Street near Mandolin Street in the St. Bernard neighborhood when someone opened fire, shooting him in the chest and abdomen. Johnson had been driving for United Cab Co. for four months when he was shot.
Terrel Johnson said his uncle is back behind the wheel of his cab, and that he, too, would return to the job.
But Terrel Johnson, who has three young children, said he might cut down on his night shifts. He is also distressed by criticism from friends who saw a television interview conducted within an hour of the incident. Johnson, who appears to be laughing, said it was an expression of relief, not cruelty.
"They didn't know how excited I was to be still living," he said. "...I wish I could talk to (Bilal's) mom and parents to tell them how sorry I am about their boy. But he tried to take my life."
04/05/00
© 2000, The Times-Picayune. Used with permission.
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The New World Order has a Third Reich odor.
http://www.nolalive.com/t-p/national/index.ssf?/t-p/national/0004050186.html
Cabbie not so brave after shootout
Cabbie says he'll watch who he picks up
By Richard Sine
West Bank bureau/The Times-Picayune
Terrel Johnson, a cab driver who grew up in the St. Bernard public housing complex, prided himself on his willingness to pick up fares almost anywhere, any time of night. He kept doing so, even after his cab-driving uncle was shot and seriously wounded in his taxi on New Year's Eve.
But Johnson is not so sure anymore. Not after he shot and killed a young passenger who he said attempted to carjack him early Monday. Johnson has not been charged in the incident, which he said was a case of self-defense.
Kamalaaluddeen Bin Bilal, 18, of Algiers, died after the two exchanged gunfire, New Orleans police said.
"A lot of people love me because I was going places nobody else was going. What made me so mad is I picked up (Bilal) in the French Quarter, and a lot of people say that's where you should work," he said. "You got to watch who you pick up in the French Quarter," too.
Johnson, 24, on Tuesday recounted the harrowing incident. Police recovered the two weapons and planned to consult the district attorney's office on the matter. A spokesman said prosecutors had not yet reviewed the case Tuesday.
Johnson's employer, Yellow Cab Co., defended the driver's action. "They think they can come and kill drivers, but this time the driver defended himself," said Haim Dahan, owner of the cab company and Dahan's Automotive Repair.
Dahan said many of his drivers carry guns. The law forbids drivers to turn down fares based on where they are picked up or where they want to go, but Dahan said he lets his drivers, who are independent contractors, use their own discretion.
Johnson said he picked up Bilal in the French Quarter Monday shortly before 1 a.m. and was asked to drive to Algiers. Upon arriving at the 3300 block of Lancaster Street, Bilal claimed he needed to go inside to get the fare. Johnson said Bilal walked up to the front of the house and then returned to ask the amount of the fare -- $16.30. But he didn't appear to knock on the door, Johnson said.
Bilal approached the front of the house, then turned toward the cab, Johnson said. That's when Johnson said he put his gun on his lap. "It didn't seem right no more," he said. Bilal pointed a gun at Johnson and asked him to raise his hands, Johnson said.
When Johnson asked if he wanted money, Bilal told him to turn the car off and get out.
"He said 'get out of the car, I'm gonna kill you,' " Johnson said. "When I moved to get up, he shot and I shot."
Matilda Claiborne, who lives with her husband, Allen, in the house where Bilal appeared to knock on the door, said she did not know Bilal and never heard a knock on her door, or ring from the doorbell. Instead, she and her husband heard shots and rushed out to see Bilal lying in the street. "The cab driver said he was calling the police," Claiborne said.
Claiborne said it was the first shooting she had heard of in her 27 years at the normally quiet River Park One subdivision in Cut Off, a neighborhood of modest ranch homes. "This is a once-in-a-lifetime thing," she said.
Bilal's family could not be reached for comment.
Johnson said he and his uncle are lucky to be alive. On New Year's Day about noon, Jerry Johnson was driving his cab along Duplessis Street near Mandolin Street in the St. Bernard neighborhood when someone opened fire, shooting him in the chest and abdomen. Johnson had been driving for United Cab Co. for four months when he was shot.
Terrel Johnson said his uncle is back behind the wheel of his cab, and that he, too, would return to the job.
But Terrel Johnson, who has three young children, said he might cut down on his night shifts. He is also distressed by criticism from friends who saw a television interview conducted within an hour of the incident. Johnson, who appears to be laughing, said it was an expression of relief, not cruelty.
"They didn't know how excited I was to be still living," he said. "...I wish I could talk to (Bilal's) mom and parents to tell them how sorry I am about their boy. But he tried to take my life."
04/05/00
© 2000, The Times-Picayune. Used with permission.
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The New World Order has a Third Reich odor.
Cabbie kills man in carjack attempt, cops say
Driver says passenger pulled gun in Algiers
By Richard Sine
West Bank bureau/The Times-Picayune
A taxi passenger was killed in a shootout with the driver after trying to carjack the cab early Monday in Algiers, New Orleans police said.
Kamaludeen Binbilal, 18, of Algiers was shot at least twice in the chest and died at Charity Hospital, the coroner's office said. The Yellow Cab Co. driver, whom police refused to identify, was not injured.
The 24-year-old driver told police he picked up Binbilal in the French Quarter just before 1 a.m. and drove him to the 3300 block of Lancaster Street in the Cut Off neighborhood of Algiers.
The driver told police that Binbilal said he didn't have the correct fare and asked the cabbie to wait while he got it. Binbilal then walked up to the door of a house and acted
as though he were knocking at the door, police said.
Binbilal returned briefly to the cab, said he would try again and renewed the charade of knocking on the door, police said. It was then that the cabbie retrieved the gun he kept for self-defense, police said.
When Binbilal turned back toward the cab, suddenly brandishing a gun of his own, the two men exchanged fire, with at least two shots hitting Binbilal, police said. Bullets hit the cab, but missed the driver, police said.
The driver called police, and Binbilal was taken to Charity Hospital, where he died about 4:15 a.m., police said.
Residents at the house that Binbilal approached said they did not know him and did not hear any knock at their door, police said.
Police, citing the ongoing investigation, would not disclose Monday how many shots each man fired, who fired first or any other details.
A Yellow Cab official could not be reached for comment.
Police said they have not charged the driver, but will consult the district attorney's office on the matter. Investigators have recovered both weapons.
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Driver says passenger pulled gun in Algiers
By Richard Sine
West Bank bureau/The Times-Picayune
A taxi passenger was killed in a shootout with the driver after trying to carjack the cab early Monday in Algiers, New Orleans police said.
Kamaludeen Binbilal, 18, of Algiers was shot at least twice in the chest and died at Charity Hospital, the coroner's office said. The Yellow Cab Co. driver, whom police refused to identify, was not injured.
The 24-year-old driver told police he picked up Binbilal in the French Quarter just before 1 a.m. and drove him to the 3300 block of Lancaster Street in the Cut Off neighborhood of Algiers.
The driver told police that Binbilal said he didn't have the correct fare and asked the cabbie to wait while he got it. Binbilal then walked up to the door of a house and acted
as though he were knocking at the door, police said.
Binbilal returned briefly to the cab, said he would try again and renewed the charade of knocking on the door, police said. It was then that the cabbie retrieved the gun he kept for self-defense, police said.
When Binbilal turned back toward the cab, suddenly brandishing a gun of his own, the two men exchanged fire, with at least two shots hitting Binbilal, police said. Bullets hit the cab, but missed the driver, police said.
The driver called police, and Binbilal was taken to Charity Hospital, where he died about 4:15 a.m., police said.
Residents at the house that Binbilal approached said they did not know him and did not hear any knock at their door, police said.
Police, citing the ongoing investigation, would not disclose Monday how many shots each man fired, who fired first or any other details.
A Yellow Cab official could not be reached for comment.
Police said they have not charged the driver, but will consult the district attorney's office on the matter. Investigators have recovered both weapons.
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Will Beararms
New member
A few years ago, I worked one week a month in the NOLA area. I know for a fact that there is a State law on the books allowing drivers to use deadly force to stop a car jacking. The NOLA police get pounded on by the media but I guarantee you,by-in-large, they understand when a law abiding citizen uses lethal force to survive.
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"When guns are outlawed;I will be an outlaw."
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"When guns are outlawed;I will be an outlaw."
simonov jr
New member
I sent it to my daily POS email list. That's where I send a legit self-defense article to the following entities:
To: feedback@thewire.ap.org
To: canadian.firearms@justice.gc.ca, feedback@cnn.com
To: World@MSNBC.com, comments@tomkins.co.uk
To: Attorney.General@po.state.ct.us
To: events@handguncontrol.org, mark_schuster@rand.org
To: Jess_Cook@rand.org, ceo@smith-wesson.com
Why not give em a dose of reality DAILY?
To: feedback@thewire.ap.org
To: canadian.firearms@justice.gc.ca, feedback@cnn.com
To: World@MSNBC.com, comments@tomkins.co.uk
To: Attorney.General@po.state.ct.us
To: events@handguncontrol.org, mark_schuster@rand.org
To: Jess_Cook@rand.org, ceo@smith-wesson.com
Why not give em a dose of reality DAILY?