New Marlins Su*k!!!!

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DaveShooter

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Got a new Marlin 410 Lever shotgun on 10-26-2011. Right from the get go feeding issues with all types of new ammo. Picked up by Marlin and sent to the repair up in Ilion,Ny same as Remington. Got the gun back today still has feeding issues. About have to break lever at times in order for it to work at all. I called them up and told them I want a refund on this piece of junk. Gal told me fellow fixed this gun etc I told her I beg to differ, but it still isn't repaired or fixed. She said they would issue me a check when they got the gun back. I am done with any New Marlins in my life time from this point on. I sure hope the Remington R1's are okay. I got one of those in layaway as well. If not Remington can Issue me a refund as well on that purchase too.
 
I only have a 100 rounds through my R1 but it has worked alright so far. I think with some practice and a bit of tweaking it is going to be a good gun.

I bought my daughter a Marlin .22 about a year ago and it has been great.

Hope they take care of you on the return.
 
General consensus of the New Marlins are, well, they aren't a Marlin. At this point I wouldn't even buy a new .22 Rem/Marlin, let alone drop some big coin on a centerfire lever.

The used Marlin market is where you need to go...
 
Charlie you are right on that for sure.

I do know Marlin is part of the Freedom Group Company in which I thot someone said it is part of the Cerberus Capitol Management as well. I found a # For Cerberus in NYC in which I will call tommrow to voice my and other concerns for a so called company that dosen't care about it's customer or small man base. man do I miss the folks I use to know at the o'le Marlin Co in Conn- Tim Looney and others always treated me great if I had any issues or problems with a Marlin. The Gun got fixed or replacd with no Questions asked of any kind with the true Marlin Company of yrs gone by.......
 
Another consideration/option should be the abundunt supply of used Winchesters. In the last 2 yrs, I found a used 1969 commemorative model 94 that I believe was never fired..it has been fired now and taken a nice deer :cool: Also, I found a beautiful Ranger 12g. 120 model with the deer slug barrel.

Just sayin..these guns are tried and true proven work horses and are very plentyful in gun shops around town in this economy I've noticed :cool:
 
Thread like this make me determined to hold onto my 1981 1895c in .357 no matter how much they are worth (which is easily more than twice what I paid in 2000)
 
I've got to say, with all of the complaints I've read recently about Remington products, I'd be very reluctant to buy anything that came out of their factory.
 
I used to be a Remington fan. Lately, it's about bringing out new cartridges that die off after a few years. It wasn't their fault the 6.8 started off with a whimper, but they sure haven't helped to fix the problem, either. They just started the grist mill up again with the .30AR, then the .300BO.

Guns under that one roof in Ilion now include Remington, Bushmaster, and Marlin. Maybe the Board will stop listening to the Marketing yes men when Sales keep reporting less guns moved, and CS/QC tell them why.

It's glaringly apparent some overcompensated managers are NOT much concerned with providing customers a decent working product. Their spin is beginning to look more and more like a big swirly siphoning down the tubes. They need to start stringing together some good stuff for their consumer base, not strutting like incumbents with no opposition. They are alienating the very people they need to support them.
 
I am a lever gun fanatic. I have several. Marlin has always been great. My 1894 and 336xlr are two of my favorites guns. I have purchased two since they were purchased by remington. The guide gun in 45/70 and 336bl. They are both, in a word, awful. I sent the 336bl back for feeding issues and after getting it back with the same problem, I declined to pursue the issues with the guide gun. They are both broken, and therefore untrustworthy and useless. Marlin levers were my favorite. As stated earlier in this thread, marlins aren't marlins anymore. These were guns I wanted for a lifetime and to someday pass on. I was really disappointed.
 
The sad fact is that if you have a smooth accurate and reliable old Winchester or Marlin, you'd better hold onto to it. I watched as the 'new' 94 Winchester morphed into something I didn't even want anymore and apparently they succeeded in convincing a lot of others.

I thought it sad that I had seen such a thing in my lifetime... now Marlin is declining and longtime users are looking elsewhere. I'm going to go hug my old pre-64 30-30.
 
So is there a way to look at the markings and tell what you have? I bought a Marlin Guide Gun early this year. I can't see anything wrong with it. But you guys are making me worry that I WILL eventually!

Gregg
 
If the proof mark on the barrel is "JM" it's a good old Marlin. If it says "REP" it's a Remington.

I'm done with everything Freedom group. I've heard all the new Marlin horror stories over on MarlinOwners.com, and I wouldn't take a chance on them. I also will not be able to forgive them for putting those hard working people in CT out on the street, only to have a crappy product built elsewhere and tarnish the name of an American icon.

I count myself very lucky as the original owner of a Connecticut built 1895SBL, those that worked at Marlin say there were less than 400 made at the old plant before they shut down. It's been a pleasure to own from day one, and out off all the guns I own this is the only one that I will NEVER part with.
 
I went to get my rifle... I'm not surprised based on when I bought it... it says REP on the side. It's an 1895 GBL.

When it arrived, I automatically replaced the ejector with a stainless model from Wild West. I haven't done anything else to it. I don't see anything obviously wrong other than that stupid safety and that would have been there in any case. Serial number is MR084xxA.

Guess I shouldn't have bought it but I didn't know then. Since I've already got it, what should I be looking for as far as problems?

Gregg
 
I also used to be a Remington fan having been very pleased with a 700 ADL bought in 1997. Unfortunately, I have had trouble with two brand new rifles - a Model Seven and 597 - that required factory repairs in just the past three months.

I was planning to trade in the Seven toward a TC Venture, but now those are under recall and the company cannot tell me when rifles will be back in stores. It looks like my Seven replacement will likely be a Weatherby Vanguard Series 2 (Howa action).
 
Gregg-

Do yourself a favor, don't look for problems. If it feeds, fires and ejects, and has good accuracy be happy and count yourself lucky. Just my advice.
 
I'm sure you are right. I just didn't want to be the ignorant savage who overlooked something really obvious. Until it wouldn't work in a critical situation and I'm standing there with a stupid look on my face!

I've always planned on having some custom gunsmithing done to it. That safety has to go. Or at least be locked down in the fire position. Guess the gunsmith can check it out then.

Gregg
 
As a point to note- the last year of production at the old plant also showed a distinct deterioration in overall quality on the leverguns.
Can't assume you have a "good" one just because it wasn't made in Ilion. :)
Denis
 
And even though the barrel has a REP proof on it, the other side still says North Haven CT. So was Remington building these rifles with parts that had already been produced in CT and then shipped to the REM plant?

Gregg
 
confidence/trust is a big issue, especially with guns. if you don't have it, you won't use the gun. the two rem marlins i bought had issues out of the box. the issues can be addressed, but my non existant confidence in the guns will likely keep them in the safe and out of the field.

rem/marlin has been getting complaints and the theme i keep seeing is that they don't respond/care. sure they'll take a gun back for service, like they did my 336bl. but when they are willing to return it with the same problem it shows me they don't care about their product or my satisfaction with it. any gun can need work, but when they get a gun back, it should matter that it gets returned to the owner in good solid working order. hell, i would have even liked a follow up (like the gunshop that sold it to me did).
 
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