I was at my local Gun Show today and bought a Thunderwear holster. It places the pistol right over the front of my pelvis inside my pants just inside my belt. I was doubtful, but bought it anyway since I am always looking for examples for the CCDW classes I teach. I got it home and tried it, and holy cow...it works great! I could put anything from a Walther PPK to a Para Ordnance P12.45 in it and use it with all kinds of comfort. I would drop a pistol in the holster and it would literally disappear. This may become one of my favorite holsters.