I want one! It uses M-16 mags and the lower reciever is also M-16/AR-15 compatible. The question is, who will buy the Robinson M96 Expedition Rifle now???
www.armalite.com
www.armalite.com
New Armalite AR180b - $590 msrp!
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Robert Foote
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Interesting, and not a bad price either. Unfortunately the folding stock feature seems to be gone, and the flash hider looks PC.
Now to see if it makes it onto the market, what the real selling price will be, and how the quality control will be...
Now to see if it makes it onto the market, what the real selling price will be, and how the quality control will be...
maybe the competition will lower the ticket price on the Robinson rifle
http://www.sterlingwebpages.com/ar180site/history.htm
http://www.sterlingwebpages.com/ar180site/history.htm
Wow. Can't complain about the price. 
I don't like the direct impingement gas system of the AR 15, but the AR 180 still uses that damn little spring loaded ejector. The M96 does not. That is an advantage in my opinion (having managed to jam the hell out of a Bushmaster's ejector once).
The question is, is that an $800 or so advantage? Depends on what you are looking for. I wouldn't mind having one of these little rifles for fun.
I don't like the direct impingement gas system of the AR 15, but the AR 180 still uses that damn little spring loaded ejector. The M96 does not. That is an advantage in my opinion (having managed to jam the hell out of a Bushmaster's ejector once).
The question is, is that an $800 or so advantage? Depends on what you are looking for. I wouldn't mind having one of these little rifles for fun.
Yes KSFreeman i was doing a little reading, i was looking in my copy Guns In Combat, and my old of Small Arms Of The World, they have a lot of good info on the stoner-63 and the AR-18.
Now any one that has been on TFL for any time long know's that i love the AR-15, but i would say that the AR-18 would have been a better Rifle for are Military to use. But if we had used it we mite not have seen the H&K G36, seeing that the bolt in the G36 is from the M16, and the bolt carrier is from the AR-18.
O! and if the bolt from the G36 is same as the bolt on a M16 would it not have a spring loaded ejector to?
Now any one that has been on TFL for any time long know's that i love the AR-15, but i would say that the AR-18 would have been a better Rifle for are Military to use. But if we had used it we mite not have seen the H&K G36, seeing that the bolt in the G36 is from the M16, and the bolt carrier is from the AR-18.
O! and if the bolt from the G36 is same as the bolt on a M16 would it not have a spring loaded ejector to?
Dude, I don't know I've never field stripped a G36, or seen a schematic of the internals. But if it has a spring loaded ejector they are making a mistake. I would be very surprised if it does.
Name one reason why a tiny plunger, roll pin, and spring, that can be jammed up by something like a 1/16th of an inch brass shaving is somehow superior to a cut in the bolt and a big chunk of metal on the inside of the receiver like an AK, FAL, G3, FNC, M96, Galil, or Aug? Does this part fail very often, no, but can it fail, yes! And its nothing that I read out of a book, it is something that I have done for myself. You have to get some punches and tear the bolt apart to clear that malfunction.
The Garand has a spring loaded ejector, as does its offspring the M14. But have you seen the size of that thing! It is nothing like the sissy ejector on an AR.
Name one reason why a tiny plunger, roll pin, and spring, that can be jammed up by something like a 1/16th of an inch brass shaving is somehow superior to a cut in the bolt and a big chunk of metal on the inside of the receiver like an AK, FAL, G3, FNC, M96, Galil, or Aug? Does this part fail very often, no, but can it fail, yes! And its nothing that I read out of a book, it is something that I have done for myself. You have to get some punches and tear the bolt apart to clear that malfunction.
The Garand has a spring loaded ejector, as does its offspring the M14. But have you seen the size of that thing! It is nothing like the sissy ejector on an AR.
I'd still like a Robinson, but that is another topic...
If the dealers actually sell these at MSRP(or below), this is going to be a hard one to pass up. The Armalite isn't high on my wish list right now, but an inexpensive fun rifle(that I don't have to get new mags for), is really appealing. The downside for me is it will take away from the funds for the guns I really want.
Hmmmmm.
Zane
If the dealers actually sell these at MSRP(or below), this is going to be a hard one to pass up. The Armalite isn't high on my wish list right now, but an inexpensive fun rifle(that I don't have to get new mags for), is really appealing. The downside for me is it will take away from the funds for the guns I really want.
Hmmmmm.
Zane
Dude, You're right. From the Sterling Web Pages I've since found that:
"The AR-18 was designed by Art Miller of Armalite in 1963. Gene Stoner had nothing to do with it, having left Armalite in 1961."
The site also states that Stoner didn't really have anything to do with the AR-15, his design was the AR-10. The "15" was brought to market by his protégées after he left the company.
-- Kernel
"The AR-18 was designed by Art Miller of Armalite in 1963. Gene Stoner had nothing to do with it, having left Armalite in 1961."
The site also states that Stoner didn't really have anything to do with the AR-15, his design was the AR-10. The "15" was brought to market by his protégées after he left the company.
-- Kernel
Tshoes, in summary, it's because many people, rightly or wrongly, dislike the AR-15 action for some reason. If you search this forum, you will come across several such threads.
I think it's great that another semi-auto rifle is being "reintroduced" in the present political climate. Now if we can just get someone to license the G36 and SIG550 designs for domestic manufacture..
-z
I think it's great that another semi-auto rifle is being "reintroduced" in the present political climate. Now if we can just get someone to license the G36 and SIG550 designs for domestic manufacture..
-z
Christopher II
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I've always had a thing for Armalites. For under 600 bucks, I doubt that I'll be able to resist... Wonder if Armalite will consider a 16"-barrelled version?
- Chris
- Chris
heres the old manual:
http://www.sterlingwebpages.com/ar180site/manual.htm
http://www.sterlingwebpages.com/ar180site/manual.htm
Destructo6
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Well, if you currently own one or more of each of the following: AR, AK, FAL, HK, etc, you'd probably be looking for something different that accepts magazines you already own.
It does look as though the G36 uses a plunger style ejejctor, though it's hard to tell by the image, other than there's no slot for the fixed ejector.
It does look as though the G36 uses a plunger style ejejctor, though it's hard to tell by the image, other than there's no slot for the fixed ejector.