Mike P. Wagner
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I have finally started making it to the range spot COVID, and right now I have an FN FiveSeven Mark II and and Armalite AR-24C - a Sarsilmaz Tangfolio CZ 75 clone that Armalite imported in the early 2000s.
I think that I have decided to sell the FiveSeven - ammo is just too dang expensive - even post COVID buying bulk is $0.50/round. It also has not been super reliable.
I expect that I will get $650 - $750 for the FiveSeven, 5 20 round mags and a Kramer leather OWB hoslter/dual mag pouch. Mayne that is optimistic.
If I do, I think that I will get another 9mm. I really like the way the Armalite AR-24C (in this case, the C is for "tactical", the compact model was a "K") sits in my hand - but no parts are available. I recently tried to get a fiber optic front site and no one has one that will fit.
I also get a bit of trigger sting from the Armalite AR-24 when I fire it in DA mode.
Last week at the range, I rented a Baretta PX4 Compact, and I liked shooting that pretty much. I certainly shot it as well as I shoot the AR-24.
I also plan to rent a Springfield EMP before I make a decision. I rented a 1911 in 45 years ago, and was underwhelmed. I had expected to really like a 1911, but I think that a high end 1911 - maybe after a bunch of tinkering - can be an incredible gun - but the one I rented was not.
My uses for the gun will be mostly home defense and range shooting.
The only time/place I can imagine carrying would be at synagogue each week - where it would be concealed, but not deep concealment. I could see an OWB holster under a suit jacket would be fine. I don't care if my friends at shul know that I am carrying. Open carry is legal in my state, and I would get a CCW if it came to that.
So I think size/weigth does not matter all that much - I don't see myself carrying every day - or to places where I don't know almost everyone by sight.
Part of me says, go with a CZ 75 P01 more or less as an updated AR-24 that i can actually get parts and accessories for, part of me says go for thoroughly modern gun like the polymer rotary action PX4, and I held a Springfield EMP as the rental counter last week, and was surprised how slim it was and how good it felt in my hand.
What do people think the trade offs are between these pistols?
I realize these three are all very different, so I have not been able to find many comparison YouTube videos or articles.
I think that I have decided to sell the FiveSeven - ammo is just too dang expensive - even post COVID buying bulk is $0.50/round. It also has not been super reliable.
I expect that I will get $650 - $750 for the FiveSeven, 5 20 round mags and a Kramer leather OWB hoslter/dual mag pouch. Mayne that is optimistic.
If I do, I think that I will get another 9mm. I really like the way the Armalite AR-24C (in this case, the C is for "tactical", the compact model was a "K") sits in my hand - but no parts are available. I recently tried to get a fiber optic front site and no one has one that will fit.
I also get a bit of trigger sting from the Armalite AR-24 when I fire it in DA mode.
Last week at the range, I rented a Baretta PX4 Compact, and I liked shooting that pretty much. I certainly shot it as well as I shoot the AR-24.
I also plan to rent a Springfield EMP before I make a decision. I rented a 1911 in 45 years ago, and was underwhelmed. I had expected to really like a 1911, but I think that a high end 1911 - maybe after a bunch of tinkering - can be an incredible gun - but the one I rented was not.
My uses for the gun will be mostly home defense and range shooting.
The only time/place I can imagine carrying would be at synagogue each week - where it would be concealed, but not deep concealment. I could see an OWB holster under a suit jacket would be fine. I don't care if my friends at shul know that I am carrying. Open carry is legal in my state, and I would get a CCW if it came to that.
So I think size/weigth does not matter all that much - I don't see myself carrying every day - or to places where I don't know almost everyone by sight.
Part of me says, go with a CZ 75 P01 more or less as an updated AR-24 that i can actually get parts and accessories for, part of me says go for thoroughly modern gun like the polymer rotary action PX4, and I held a Springfield EMP as the rental counter last week, and was surprised how slim it was and how good it felt in my hand.
What do people think the trade offs are between these pistols?
I realize these three are all very different, so I have not been able to find many comparison YouTube videos or articles.