new 45acp brass

cw308

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Looking through my reloading closet l found a box of new R P brass, l will check length, should I size the unfired cases.
 
I always size new cases and chamfer the case mouth. May not be 100% necessary but I like to start with all cases uniform.
 
I don't care who makes it I size it new or old. I will store used brass and prep it for loading. I store it in a plastic bag with I.D. telling what has been done to it... Even when I purchase the so called perfect brass for the big bucks. I still go over it and give it full inspection.:rolleyes:
 
I've never done it with new brass, and I've bought tens of thousands of new cases over time. I don't think I can make a case enough more uniform than the manufacturer can to make a difference to handgun load precision, so it's just working the brass one extra time to me.
 
After reading the posts, I agreed with 3 out of four. Then I thought to check some in my Lyman case gauge, they all were fine. I will check to see if they are all the same length. This time I'm going with Unclenick. I will check every one though. Thanks guy's
 
I bought 500 new Starline 44-40's and about 15 of them were straight walled so yeah it's a good idea.
 
With reloading, when in doubt, err on the side of caution. Odds are, you'll never know how much trouble you saved yourself, but it's probably a bunch.
 
Hawg, did you have to size only the 15 and the others were good to go. I shoot mostly 308 the brass I get from a friend that shoots 308 match A Max. I F/L size his brass, but for the life of me l can't remember 12 years back I bought new Win & Rem.brass 100 each, if I sized before I reloaded them.
 
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It's pretty much that simple. New brass does need to be inspected. I bought 1000 Winchester .223 cases one time and found two in the box that never had the flash holes punched. This is one kind of defect commercial ammo can have that reloads never have (because they were already fired once).

That brings me to point out the bulk cases you buy from an ammunition maker, like Winchester or Remington, are the same ones they load in their machines to make commercial loads. That's why the size has to be right as they come, less any rejects.

Bottleneck rifle cases are a little different from handgun brass because its necks and shoulders are softer from the extra annealing at the end, so it picks up case mouth dents much more easily than handgun brass does when transported someplace in bulk. All that shipping company package handler throwing and dropping can take a toll on soft case mouths. So you may need to de-dent some of your rifle brass, and may need to size the neck, too.
 
In my experience, pistol ammo loaded in new cases shoots different than reloaded ammo because of different case tension if not given the same processing.
 
Three things are different. One is that many auto cases, 9 mm in particular, have tapered sides, but the carbide sizing rings most of us use these days make them straight, which means tighter. The 45 Auto, though, has less taper than the 9, and I can't say I've ever noticed a serious difference using new or resized brass with it. Then again, I wasn't looking for it, so I could be wrong. Another difference is the brass gets harder as it is worked and more springy. (This can actually lower bullet pull because resizing doesn't any long size it down as far. I used to pitch R-P cases because they would get so springy they wouldn't hold a bullet at all after resizing, and that would happen in just two or three reloading cycles. That was using a Lyman carbide die. The Dillon die I use now is tighter and overcomes that.) The third thing is residual fouling is in most cases that has a rough surface.
 
Having found numerous dented or out of round case mouths in new brass over the years, I just size everything before loading. End of issue.
 
CW308
Yes, and my handloads shoot better than any factory loads I have ever used, for the last 40 years.

You can "partial size", but I normally only do that for 45 Colt/44 Mag/357. 45acp is a little short for that technique.
 
1100 tac, I feel the same, 308 is my serious reloads for benchrest shooting, hand gun real accurate shooting is hard for me do to shoulder injuries, no big deal its still enjoyable.
 
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