Need some input on this, Please

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shu9265

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Would you members share some input on this ? I wrote this as a guest view
for our local newspaper. Thanks, Bill




Wake up America !

We the people of these United States of America need to sit up and pay attention real quick.

It is time that we DEMAND that the Police and Courts do what they are here for. PROTECT US ! ! !

We the people need to DEMAND a stop to the killing of our children in OUR cities ! ! !

We the people need to DEMAND, that the "illegal" guns are taken off the streets and out of the hands of these "street criminals"

Just this morning, I read and article in the newspaper that stated some folks that live in various parts of the country are calling for "more" Gun Control ! ! !

We DO NOT need more Government Control ! ! ! !

We have appointed "Czar's" selling guns to the Mexican Drug Lords, and swearing that it was in the interest of justice. Who's justice?

Are these appointed "Czar's" above the Law ? ? ? ?

In our Nation's Capitol, there lies the strictest gun control laws in the country, AND the Highest MURDER rates in the country.

Why is the "Gun Control" NOT working there ?

Here in New York State, we have the strictest hand gun laws in the country ! ! ! !

It is written, "if you get caught with an "Illegal handgun" "you will be sentenced to a mandatory one year jail sentence" ! ! !

What happens when one of these street "thugs" get caught with a gun ?

They get a lawyer, and end up with a slap on the wrist ! ! ! Maybe a small fine..

And what of the gun ? Does it go out the backdoor and onto the streets again ?

It is truly a sad state of affairs, when some kid can go out on the streets, and for a few bucks, BUY a Handgun ! Or a machine gun !

These people are NOT going to a REGISTERED, LICENSED DEALER to buy these guns.

They are buying them out of the trunk of a car, or out of some apartment.

They know that they DO NOT need to wait on a "cooling off period" They know that they DO NOT need to worry about back ground checks.

These people have NO regard for human life ! They are worried about one thing only ! To get a gun ! !

Because when I have my gun, "NO ONE gonna dis me! " "I busta cap in they ass!" "What you talkin' bad about my Gang ! " " I shoot you right here ! "


More Government Gun Control is ONLY going to impose more needless rules on the " Honest Law Abiding" gun owners in this country.


At this time, Our President along with supporters of the "Brady Bill" and Hillary Clinton are trying to pass some "Under the Radar" agreement with the United Nations

to Control ALL gun sales ! ! !

What gives these people the right to try and give away our Constitutional rights to the UN ? ? ? The UN has NO control over the Constitution of these United States of America ! !


Our wonderful (makes me wonder what they are thinking) elected politicians are ruining OUR beloved country.

If you agree with what I am saying here, PLEASE PASS this along.
 
DLiller said:
"That's all well and good but its written like a politician.

It brings up a lot of problems but offers no solutions. "

I am NOT a politician ! NO way shape or form !


That is the reason that I am asking for input.

To try and get some sort of ideas for some kind of solution to the already
existing problems.

Such as, "what can be done to get these guns off the streets ?"

I mean what can be done, short of a vigilante movement ?

Any idea's. ? This is where it has to start, with us the folks that own "Legal"
guns.

What can we "the law abiding citizens" do to solve the problem ?
 
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None of it will ever change until people know what laws are being passed in our names as it is people in general know more about any given tv show than the freedom killing laws that have been passed.. The people directly responsible for this situation are "we the people" who have forgotten our duties as a whole... If liberty was a person she would be on her knees crying for the sins we are all responsible for...
 
Personally, I ignore all chain mails like this where the author says he was spurred by reading a single newspaper article. If the author urging me on won't do more research, why should I?
 
Here's input.
I read stuff like that, and my first thought is, "Great, another nut-job."
No offense intended, but you did ask.
 
I never said you were a politician. I said the thing you wrote sounds like it was written by a politician.

I said this for several reasons.

It contains little to no hard facts. You don't even mention who is calling for more gun control, nor why.

It is written to evoke an emotional response from people that know little about the subject at hand. That doesn't work with people who are informed on the issue.

It contains a call to action, but what action? It lacks focus and a consistent message. What will passing around this message do? Nothing productive.

It does little to inform people of the real issues or give them useful information about them. Its a lot of conjecture and feeling with no facts to support.

Hope that cleared up my comment for you.

Have a great day,
Devin
 
Points well made and understood.

1) I at least do not think I am a "nut job" Really I don't. :D

2) This was not written as a "chain mail" it was written to my local paper
in response to an article they ran about us "needing" more gun control.

3) I was seriously asking for any idea's that could actually be implemented to "help" get some of these illegal guns off the streets.
 
Well, there isn't a lot more to be done than already is done.

As firearms owners, we should try to keep our firearms secure when not in use. A safe and an alarm help with that.

When people are caught with firearms they shouldn't have, I believe most police agencies confiscate and destroy the firearms. Unfortunate, because I think a lot of neat things probably end up being melted down.

What I would do with the confiscated firearms would be resell them to legal owners, and use the money to help out the department. If it is sold through an FFL to a non criminal, it would be a fine way to make money.
 
Devin,

Thank You for your response.

I will leave this on the board, and will do a bunch more research on the subject.
And post back when I have ALL my ducks in a row.

Again Thank You for pointing out what I missed.

Bill
 
Do some research, indeed.

It is time that we DEMAND that the Police and Courts do what they are here for. PROTECT US ! ! !
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But they are NOT there to protect you, regardless what it may say on their squad car doors...... Warren v. D.C. and Castle Rock v. Gonzales established that the Police are not there to protect you as an individual, just preserve order and protect the Public. The courts are in the business of applying and interpreting the Law.

Who is to protect YOU?

You, of course.
 
I was seriously asking for any idea's that could actually be implemented to "help" get some of these illegal guns off the streets.
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There is no way to get all the illegal guns off the street.. As I understand it with the right stuff from the hardware store and you could construct an illegal but improvised gun in minutes. Further the metal lathe to make guns to the best of my knowledge is not a controlled item and basically anyone with enough motivation could find a way to make something.. (illegal more than likely)

The piece that people fail to remember is most of these illegal guns that you hear about are in the hands of people who are working as predators... No different than any large dangerous predatory animal in the woods. It is nature itself that has dreamed up the scheme where the strong survive and the weak parish.

The only way to fight such a predator is to not appear to be weak and to not give a generous opportunity and on some level to appear as if an attack on your person is likely to not pay off or go badly and be costly. One way to do this is make it reasonable to think that any given person is probably armed and have that in general be true.

So many people want to live in a perfect world where no one ever gets hurt, the only way to do that is to be prisoners and have your every decision made for you and have all your needs tended to by someone else. We have insulated ourselves so much from the real world most people couldnt even begin to butcher a chicken or a cow or whatever... If our nation went without power for one month just how many people would not make it?

Bottom line humans are predators, eyes are close together and we have canine teeth and predatory thinking... Death is a part of life and quite often its totally unfair..
 
But they are NOT there to protect you, regardless what it may say on their squad car doors
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The Supremes have ruled they have no duty to protect. They squad car doors just say "To protect and serve". We just assume they mean "serve and protect" the people. Remember the meaning of "is.


So many people want to live in a perfect world where no one ever gets hurt, the only way to do that is to be prisoners and have your every decision made for you and have all your needs tended to by someone else.
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Prison ought to be the safest place on earth, according to these people.
 
" it was written to my local paper in response to an article they ran about us "needing" more gun control"

You should have mentioned this in your first post, the responses here might have been a bit different.
 
Such as, "what can be done to get these guns off the streets ?"
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According to the antis - MORE control is necessary

Using exclamation points in writing tends to come across as demands or "shouting", which automatically turns folks off
You'll get more flies with honey than vinegar = if you can't take their side and use it against them, you are wasting your time because no one will change their mind otherwise
 
I agree with the folks who already stated alot of problems and no solutions. Of which i distinctly remember the part that says "It is time that we DEMAND that the Police and Courts do what they are here for. PROTECT US ! ! ! ". We all know that neither one has any legal or moral responsibility to do so. That line alone immediately leads me to believe the author is of a protectionist persuasion. I will not hear from protectionists, pure and simple.
 
As a writer and former editor, my immediate reaction is that you have not written an article or a letter, you have assembled a lot of individual sentences into a group. It used to be axiomatic that NO paragraph should contain fewer than two sentences, unless a single-sentence paragraph was used FOR EMPHASIS. When every paragraph is one sentence long, the whole piece becomes disjointed.

shu9265 said:
What can we "the law abiding citizens" do to solve the problem ?
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What's the problem you want solved? In the beginning of your piece, I thought you were an anti-gun type who had snuck in here to tweak us RKBA nut-cases. But toward the end you identify yourself as a "Legal" gun owner. So I honestly have no idea where you're coming from or what you see as the problem.

Guns? Guns are tools. Get the "illegal" guns (whatever that is) off the streets, and the gang bangers will use knives, machetes, bazookas, RPGs, and/or hand grenades. I think you are focusing on the tool, when the real problem isn't guns, but a criminal "justice" system that isn't just, and doesn't impose meaningful punishments for serious crimes. The problem is the criminals, not their tools.

shu9265 said:
2) This was not written as a "chain mail" it was written to my local paper
in response to an article they ran about us "needing" more gun control.
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The way it reads for me, your response to the call for more gun control is to call for more gun control.

How does that help us? :confused:
 
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Prison ought to be the safest place on earth, according to these people.
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It could be but it would require a dictatorship and every cell to be permanent solitary confinement with solid steel doors that prevent tossing things to one another and sound proof walls and a toilet system that won’t carry sound. Meals prepared and distributed solely by some sort of robotic system to keep jailers as emotionally distant from prisoners as possible...

Practical or easy to get to this level regardless of the system, no. This is probably as close as you could ever get to absolute protection from all physical harm. I think you got my real point which was there is no absolute way to protect everyone from everything...

Funny how 3,000,000 people are hurt a year in car accidents and yet guns which form a micro amount of incidents in comparison get all the crazy laws at every level and maximum PC hype...
 
Aguila is spot-on with his advice.

Avoid all-caps. Period. It looks unprofessional, and many folks will stop reading at that point. Furthermore, use exclamation points sparingly at best. There is never a need for more than one.

Remember the five-paragraph essay we all learned in high school? It's used because it's a very succinct, powerful structure. Emulate that rather than a set of bullet points. You should choose two or three related arguments and flesh those out.
 
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