Need some advice before i got crazy!!!!

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IM stuck badly.....

Pistol / carbine combo 9mm... covers 10 to 75/100yrds with a scout in .308 for 75 +

or

do an ak47 in 7.62x39mm and a savage scout in the same...

I figure the AK will cover 50 to 150yrds and the scout 150 to 300....

would the scout in 7.62 really give me an accuracy range boost compared to ak?


As you can see there is an ammo sharing theme here. as i can really only afford to stock up on one round... not multiples..


I need to decide on my route before i make my purchase and the more i look the more options i come up with....

also of note allready have a 12g.

i wont ever have the cash to try both routes... and im trying to cover all basis
 
Umm... What?

What is the goal here?

Wading through that posting I'm still not even sure what OP is asking. Something about an AK only being accurate to 150 yards? And shooting 9mm at 100?
 
9mm.
.308
7.62x39
As you can see there is an ammo sharing theme here....
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Huh? :eek:
 
lol sorry.

let me rephrase....

not saying the ak is ONLY accurate to 150 I was merely giving an example of what i would be going for in terms distance usage.


Let me refocus my questions...
Which route?
1)a) pistol / carbine combo which should give me almost a 100yrd range with a bolt action .308 for farther distances....

or b) scrap the pistol and instead get an AK or AR and then a bolt action for longer dist.?


2) the savage scout (bolt action) at my lgs comes in 7.62x39 would it be anymore accurate at longer ranges than an AK/sks?


cause for the conundrum is simply that i have no desire for multiple different guns , nor the space or cashflow.
 
What is your application?

If you're talking exclusively about self-defense, then I don't see why an AK or SKS wouldn't fill the bill all by itself.

Even if you want to add whitetail hunting to the list, you can still stick with an SKS as long as you use good hunting ammo and don't stretch the range too much.
 
1) pistol / carbine combo which should give me almost a 100yrd range with a bolt action .308 for farther distances....
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(1) Pistol/Carbine Combo: http://www.marlinfirearms.com/firearms/1894centerfire/1894c.asp

(2) Get the 308Win for the longer-range/bolt action

Each of those cartridge/firearm combinations are as versatile as things can get.
(unless you want to start another Grendel discussion.) :D
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Of course you could also go nuts and get one of these:
http://www.bushmaster.com/catalog_carbon15_AZ9-C15R16FT.asp


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agree w/ mehavey.

If I am stocking up JUST 1 type of ammo, I'll get a .357 or even a .44 mag ruger blackhawk and 1894 Marlin.

That should cover home defense, combat, and hunting alltogether. Also, bear defense should you decide on a .44
 
application is simply defense at all distances. with hunting options

by only needing 1 maybe 2 types of ammo that is fairly affordable i would be able to get alot of trigger time in

ive been looking around and it seems that 500-1000 rnds of .357 varies greatly... what are your average price points for bulk .357?



Does anyone have any infor on 7.62x39 from a bolt action compared to semi? cant seem to fine any articles comparing the 2 different methods on one type of round.
 
Not going to find an article that compares a bolt action 7.62x39 with a semi because those are two totally different guns and platforms for different purposes. Also, 7.62x39 was not designed for "long range" distance shooting. If you want that, go with a 300 Win Mag, .308 Win, or 30-.06. Flatter trajectories, high velocities. All common rounds.

If purpose is defense, why buy a bolt action at all? Are you looking to defend yourself from 200 yards? My AR goes 1 MOA at 200 yards no problem. I've seen guys send shotgun slugs 200 yards and end up with one hole. Also, what scenario do you imagine defending yourself at 200 yards happening in? Don't say EOTWAWKI cuz that'll get this thread closed real fast. Neither a bolt nor a semi is going to be more accurate in a defensive situation. Human error will cause them to be equal shot-for-shot. It seems here you need to re-think what you are going to do with these firearms.

You need to marry the cartridge to the purpose, it seems to me you have the purpose a little backwards. If there was a cartridge that "did it all" we'd only have that cartridge instead of the plethora of options available to us.
 
"Not going to find an article that compares a bolt action 7.62x39 with a semi because those are two totally different guns and platforms for different purposes. Also, 7.62x39 was not designed for "long range" distance shooting. If you want that, go with a 300 Win Mag, .308 Win, or 30-.06. Flatter trajectories, high velocities. All common rounds."

Thank you that answers my question..

Mehavey: another great piece of knowledge. so a .38 spec can be used in a .357 revolver / carbine? also is .357 sig same as mag?

so this makes it a simple choice. after i look into this .357 / .38 special...
 
.38s and .357s in your .357 revolver, but I don't think you can get away with that in a carbine. While I don't know for sure, I could see the headspace being wrong since the .357 is a longer case. I certainly wouldn't try it, anyway. .357 isn't super cheap, but .38 isn't bad. I love my Ruger GP100. Plan on getting a lever in .44 at some point.
 
Both 38 Special & 357Mag headspace on the rim--as does the 44Mag (a 44Mag carbine could therefore shoot the 44 Special). So no problem at all with shooting the two "Special" variations for plinking. :)

"Plinking" aside, a nice 158 lead semiwadcutter coming out of a 5½" revolver barrel at a leisurely 925fps would be doing 1150++ by the time it exited the carbine's 18½" barrel. `Some real damage either way. :D
 
I believe CZ makes a handy bolt rifle chambered in 7.26x39. The reviews I've seen were favorable, but frankly, if I were buying a light, general purpose non-semi-automatic rifle in a light .30 caliber chambering, I'd probably go with a good quality lever rifle in .30-30 over a bolt rifle in 7.62x39.
 
.357 SIG is NOT THE SAME as a .357 magnum. Two different cartridges for different application.:)
(Although I personally love shooting them in a p226)

Pertaining to trigger time, neither .357 nor .38 sp+ is cheap if you are planning to shoot often.

go check ammoseek.com

I used the site almost every time to compare prices, different grains, etc.

7.62x39 (sks) is a very affordable round, especially as surplus.
Drawback to this is complete dismantling for cleaning is needed after each session to prevent rust.
Also, sks offers plenty firepower and stopping power for medium size game up to 200-300 yrd. Home defense overkill though, unless you want to shoot your next door neighbor while at it. But it is also a very efficient deterrent factor.

A bolt action rifle in 7.62x39 is .... interesting.... for a varmint rifle. But I'd rather stick it in an sks. Cheap, strong, reliable, intermediate battle rounds.
 
I may not be reading this right, I'm thinking you have a limited budget and wont to restrict your ammo and guns to a "X" budget but wont to cover everything from pistol range to > 300 yards.

Simple solution. 38/357 covers the handgun, 38s being relatively cheap to shoot.

Ditch the 7.62X39 idea of covering past the pistol range to 150 and finding something else for 150 and beyond.

Get a Mosin, 7.62 X 54R, cheap but good rifles, good inexpensive surplus ammo for practice and a box of Factory for hunting.

You learn to use that rifle you're good to 800 +/- with its irons.

Can't understand the "stop gap" between pistol and LR rifle. The Mosin will shoot as good (better) then the SKS at short range, and there is no comparison at long range.

Mosin is much cheaper too.
 
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