I just recieved my CZ52 from Century Arms and I am very pleased. It has the original gray parkerizing and is in excellent condition. I know what some of the markings refer to such as the Z on the trigger guard. I'd like to know what "rid" means and also it has one punch mark on the slide at the rear sight. Is this mark just a pean mark to hold the rear sight or is it a mark refering to the accuracy? Any other information regarding markings on this gun would be appreciated.
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"rid" is an arsenal or ordnance code and the puch mark is a hardness test, not an indication of accuracy. try www.makarov.com for more info.
Don't shoot bulgarian ammo if the nickname "Lefty" does nothing for you.
Don't shoot bulgarian ammo if the nickname "Lefty" does nothing for you.
Well, you got your answer ... Since you got a warning of what NOT to shoot ... I might add that www.aimsurplus.com has S&B reloadable ammo for 7.95 a box (50) and they are pretty potent without being dangerous.
Have fun!
saands
Have fun!
saands
Badger Arms
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Hammy, There are two types of Punch Marks on the CZ. One is for accuracy. These punch marks will generally be between the FRONT sight and the ejection port. One through four with four being least accurate, one being most. The other type of punch mark is a staking mark usually at the edge of the metal right next to a pin or other type of part that will move. The punch by your REAR sight is not an accuracy mark. You should have other markings that tell a story also. Directly behind the front sight shoud be the code "VOZ 76" or some other number. This means the gun was factory reconditioned in the year 1976 or maybe another year if there is a different number. Factory reconditioning consisted of new barrels serially matched to the slide, all of the holes being staked, and any loose or worn parts being replaced. Additionaly, most were refinished by rebluing or other means.
Other markings are the Cross-Swords followed by the year of manufacture (51-53), proof mark on the barrel (circle T on mine) and a small engraved bust of J. Edgar Hoover on the face of the hammer. -- Note, most of these were obliterated with use; guns with the Hoover intact are generally worth more. Look REALLY closely.
Just a note, Dry Firing this gun will often result in broken firing pins. Buy a new one to be safe and check your gun often for safety. A broken firing pin MAY cause the gun to go full-auto.
The 'rid' is the code of the factory (Ceska Zbrojovka).
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Other markings are the Cross-Swords followed by the year of manufacture (51-53), proof mark on the barrel (circle T on mine) and a small engraved bust of J. Edgar Hoover on the face of the hammer. -- Note, most of these were obliterated with use; guns with the Hoover intact are generally worth more. Look REALLY closely.
Just a note, Dry Firing this gun will often result in broken firing pins. Buy a new one to be safe and check your gun often for safety. A broken firing pin MAY cause the gun to go full-auto.
The 'rid' is the code of the factory (Ceska Zbrojovka).
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God made us in his own image.
Thomas Jefferson made us free.
John Browning made us equal.
Without Browning, we might not know about the other two...
Destructo6
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There are no marks on a CZ-52 that indicate a degree of accuracy. That is a myth. It's merely the result of hardness testing (ie Rockwell) as B Shipley stated.
Other than that, badgerarms' information is very good.
Other than that, badgerarms' information is very good.
I can't find "VOZ" anywhere on the gun but I did find one "dot" on top of the slide behind the front sight. The gun was made in 1954. What exactly was the upgrade made to this gun that is marked by the letter "Z"? What can I expect in the terms of accuracy? By the way, the hammer face bares a striking resemblence to Mickey Mouse......
Badger Arms
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If it doesn't have VOZ, it probably was not reworked. As a result, it probably has the orig. barrel, no stake marks on the holes, and most likely has a light grey finish. I was told, again, by a hardcore collector that the dimples are NOT hardness tests and that the rumor is they are accuracy marks but that goes unconfirmed. Part of the reason for the confusion is that accurately marked guns are no more accurate than multi-dimple guns. This is Bunk because the marks are present on non-refurbished guns as well as refurbished guns. Refurbishing includes replacement of the barrel and change in accuracy is inevitable.
Destructo, My source was a book called "know your Czechoslovokian Pistols" by R.L. Berger and expert advice. I think there are two differing views with no definitive answer on the dimples.
The 'Mickey Mouse' variety, BTW, is a rumored varient that fetches very big money with collectors. Other markings include a "Janet Reno" as well as a few "Elton John's" on Navy issued pistols. Don't Ask, Don't tell. (Czech Navy... Get it?)
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God made us in his own image.
Thomas Jefferson made us free.
John Browning made us equal.
Without Browning, we might not know about the other two...
Destructo, My source was a book called "know your Czechoslovokian Pistols" by R.L. Berger and expert advice. I think there are two differing views with no definitive answer on the dimples.
The 'Mickey Mouse' variety, BTW, is a rumored varient that fetches very big money with collectors. Other markings include a "Janet Reno" as well as a few "Elton John's" on Navy issued pistols. Don't Ask, Don't tell. (Czech Navy... Get it?)
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God made us in his own image.
Thomas Jefferson made us free.
John Browning made us equal.
Without Browning, we might not know about the other two...
"Z" is an improved safety that prevents the possibility of discharge on decock. This was marked on retrofitted guns and not new guns that came with this improvement, hence you can't tell on unmarked guns until it happens to you. Decock downrange. All as related by Dennis Kroh at Empire Arms.
ahhhhhhhh my faveritest piece in my collection!
heres some tidbits!
also try the czech board for info too,i frequent both, my handle is l.s.h. on both by the way and willing to help on czech weapons..... http://go.to/czechforum
first and foremost theyre is a bad bad batch of bulgarian ammo that destroys cz's,good thing is the cz stays intact unlike most pistols ive seen blow a slide off,chech this link out for details on casehead stamps and pics of a destroyed cz,this guy blew 2 of them not just one with this ammo. http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Gorge/4653/bad.htm also OG has good cz info too.on the main page u will find a link.
hollow points i believe can be gotten here: http://www.owlnet.com/quality/index.html.
more ammo below.......... http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ctd/default.asp http://www.centuryarms.com/ http://www.empirearms.com/ http://www.jgsales.com/
Centerfire Systems,
Inc(1-800-950-1231)......7.62x25 S&B
non-corrosive boxer primed in quantities of 1000, 500 or 50 rounds.
RTC Sports, Inc (1-800-686-7824).....7.62x25 Sellier&Bellot non-corrosive boxer primed in quantities of 1000, 500, or 100 rounds.
Gibbs Rifle Company (304)262-1651.....7.62x25 Czech lacquered steel cases in 2,280 rounds per case quantity.
need to call the cz company? here you go.....
CZ-USA P.O.
Box 171073 Kansas City, Kansas 66117-0073 Phone: (913) 321 1811 or (800) 955-4486 Fax (913)
321 2251 e-mail: czusa@gvi.net Staff names: Alice, Joseph, and Robert
info on manufacturer.
The CZ-52 was a short recoil roller locked pistol firing the 7.62mm (m-4 cartridge. It was designed by Jan Kratochvil and manufactured by Presne Strojirentsvi, Uhersky Brod, in Moravia. It carried the factory code "rid."(mine is a rid model! ) )
(Other post-WWII codes of this factory were "AYM," "tgf," and "she."
None of these codes were found on the CZ-52 pistols.) The Czech Army adopted the CZ-52 on May 17, 1952.
MARKINGS,STAMPS,BARREL CONVERSIONS
ok the 2 numerals in the side of the frame denotes the year built:ie:52-55 etc means.the nid or rid means its a brno plant in czeck built pistol.the t on the barrel chamber means its been proofed and tested.crossed swords denotes service pistol as well as being marked rid.if your going to get a 9mm barrel ,do it,easy to replace ,just follow directions .first remove the slide,now find a drill bit to fit the hole on lock block,make sure to push both rollers in towards the middle and then pullit forward to muzzle and up you now can slide the barrel out.IF you get the 9x19 barrel theyre are some modifacations you must make to the extractor ;namely removing it from slide and then rounding the lower corner along the exposed length so it slides over the rim of the rd. ,thats it.done with mods.reinstall the extractor .the 9x19 rounds are short in the magazine well with the caliber conversion barrel but the 147 gr.will work well in the cz as well as the 115 gr. 9mm ammo.so dont freak out when you stack the mag up and see a short round in a big mag space,they feed ok in mine no sweat.it works .i chose the 9x19 barrel purely out of availability and a wider range of loads given.some guys have made mag followers and blocked theyre mag walls with a 3\16th strip but theyres no need for that,some have had the mag feed lips built up to be longer which is the ideal cure i feel.keep in mind that nowadays the 9x19 nato is the cheapest to get in all the different cals. for the cz.what i want is a barrel in 38 acp colt for my cz52! also note that on the federal barrels i have spoken with the company and they do indeed have a tite chamber on them ,i have since polished mine out to a 600 grit finish and also polished the feeding ramp as well,upon my testing at 25 yards as of last friday,i had 1-2 inch groups in a 4 inch circle with a modified weaver hold in a combat stance.i found that also tilting the pistol when releasing the slide will indeed cause failure to feed with short 115 grain ammo as when the port is facing upwards the round will fall to the left causing a stop feed.other than charging the weapon normally it works everytime,i will test 143 grain soon,other than that it was very reliable while shooting before the ramp polish and feed lip polish.also take note as some of the locking blocks are soft so that the rollers will peen into them, i have to call federal barrels again and see if they will have an answer or a part for me but after last weeks 150 round break in on a new 9mm nato barrel i was displeased to say the least with seeing this on mine while cleaning my cz52 up after the shoot.i found also it VERY controlable too in all modes of firing as well as rapid dispencement of rounds.
MOST IMPORTANT STAMPING MARK OF ALL
look for a Z stamping on the trigger gaurd.this means its had the new hammer decocker safety installed ,if not and its a century arms st.albans import piece ,send it to them after a phone call they will do the fix and send back for free. theyre have been reports of cz's going off when lowering hammer with decocker method altho i have yet to have one on mine which are z stamped.its on either side of the trigger gaurd near grip.
for you tokarev shooters of the t33 heres a 9mm barrel conversion from sks man 40$!!!!!
www.sksman.com/access/tokarev.html
my trigger mods for more accurate shot placements after last shootin session i decided to hone out the sear and hammer and all faces on the trigger bar etc.markedly notable improvement now on the general feel and use of it compared to the way it was as.next im working on a overtravel fix to keep that trigger from over traveling
when shot ala adjustable so i can get just a 1\16th of space between it after shot is fired off. will probably be located inside the frame as i look at this now.will keep posted,just thot id share another mod. with ya all.i also buffed out the firing pin as well with jewelers rouge to a nice polish,on the sear and hammer and bar faces i used a 800 grit silicon stone for that.you may have a hard time getting the end tab that makes contact to the trigger bar polished but take your time it can be done if carefully approached right with out zapping the
rest of the fullcock step as well on the sear itself.it really makes for a much better feel and shot now imho........
this is from mikes site.....After WWII the Czechoslovakian Military was looking for a first class military sidearm. Trials were held beginning in 1948, and several prototypes were tested including some in 9mm parabellum. None of the early prototypes were found to be acceptable and in 1950 Ceska Zbrojovka (Bohemian Arms Factory) concentrated it's efforts on a design based on the Russian 7.62x25mm caliber.
Initial tests in 1951 on this design were also unsatisfactory. An improved pistol was tested again in early 1952 and was adopted by the Czech Armed Forces in May of 1952 as the Model 52 (or CZ- 52). The contract for the Model 52 began in 1952 and was completed in 1954. Exact quantities produced are unknown but estimated at between 200,000 and 220,000 pistols. The Model 52 employs a roller locking system thought to have been inspired by the German MG-42 machine gun. Roller locking designs have also been used successfully for years on many Heckler and Koch rifles but are seldom seen on pistols. The Model 52 has a three position frame
mounted safety lever. In the downward position a red dot is visible and the pistol is ready to fire. In
the middle position the safety blocks the trigger bar and engages the hammer rebound notch. In this "safed" position the pistol can be carried cocked & locked or safely unloaded. Pushing the lever all the way up decocks the pistol. The magazine is held in place by a lever at the bottom rear of the magazine well. There is no magazine safety. Originally manufactured with a nice light grey parkerized finish many CZ-52's can be found on the surplus market with a dark blue (hot dipped)finish. These pistols were part of a refurbishment program in the late 70's and can also be identified by the letters "VOZ" plus the year of re-work stamped above the trigger. The CZ-52 is a great shooter, and right now there is an abundance of surplus ammo available. Norinco makes a steel case non-corrosive (so they say) commercial ammo. I found it to be a bit anemic, and I have heard that steel cases are tough on extractors. I haven't tried the Chinese
military surplus but I doubt that it's much different than the commercial stuff. My favorites are the Bulgarian and Polish surplus. The lots that I've had were brass case, very clean, surefire and cycled my pistols flawlessly. The Czech ammo is also available and it's loaded much hotter than
the rest. It's lots of fun and the CZ-52 was designed around this load but it's still a little disconcerting to see your pistol turn into a flame belching hand cannon. I don't feed my CZ's a steady diet of the Czech ammo for fear of excessive wear. Virtually all the surplus in 7.62x25 is corrosive, but don't turn your nose up at corrosive ammo like many people I talk to at gun shows do. It's priced right, and if you clean your gun shortly after shooting it will be fine. I pull the barrel out and run it under hot water while pushing a soapy brush through it. After I'm done the warm barrel dries quickly and I lightly oil it inside and out. The CZ-52 is a typical piece of Czech quality workmanship, it's fun to shoot, and right now they are
plentiful and inexpensive. If you don't get one now you may wish you had once they all disappear. NOTE---Be careful of the firing pin. It's cast steel and will last indefinitely under normal usage but if
subjected to repeated dry firing may break prematurely.
more 9x19 conv. info
actually i have been in close contact with Karl at mak.com, thats where im getting the barrel from in 9x19,actually he is quite a nice guy to deal with , the order got shipped a bit late as im pressed for time here
(moving to new apt the 1st) so he threw in a gift cert. and some extra goodies as well. on the conversion itself to 9 nato the extractor lower half gets rounded and smoothed ,the smoothing has no ill effects on the 7.62 when changing back . some guys have done a mag modification by making a new follower and
adding in a 1/8th strip in the mag in back pinning it, i have talked to some others who say use the 124 grain rounds or the heavy 140's and have had no probs. the new barrel was 70$ on sale so i just had to
get it as up here in mid north maine ammo in 7.62 is a pain to get, but nonetheless a great round.i also got the hardened steel rollers. as of now i use an uncle mikes wraparound sleeve over stock grips that were sanded out and shot in 10 coats of epoxy black spray paint and cured under a lamp for a week or so to a hard finish, altho i just be making a set of walnuts at some point. it was a arsenal rework as well, the
punched dots on the slide top is the giveaway, the amount of dots eqauls how worn the pistol was when shipped in for rework or how accurate it is.mine was essentially mint inside and no barrel wear at all. the parkerizing was somewhat not my cup of coffee so i reblued it blue/black reminiscent of the eastern combloc police
pistols.hers an interesting note tho , if you look carefully at the trigger gaurd on either side look for a Z stamping, this if you have it means your pistol has had the mods necessary so when decocking on a live round it will not go off. if not contact century arms and they will fix and ship back for free or maybe just send you the new saftey. the trigger was nice and crisp at 3 lbs even, i like the combat sights as the hang up less than a set of targets would but im now thinking of just changing the rear to a modified and rounded somewhat target set.the weirdest comment i have had yet was "who raped your mauser?!" outrageous at best. also after looking for extra stuff i have seen these sky rocket upwards of 190-240$$ on the net and in the shops lately as theyre drying up some in stocks. one strong piece. i have been looking for a cz50 in 32 acp lately locally so i dont have to pay an extra 50$ in shipping ffl fee's as well as that tok33/48/54, the cz 70 was good with the extra round capacity but not as accurate as ive heard........
heres some tidbits!
also try the czech board for info too,i frequent both, my handle is l.s.h. on both by the way and willing to help on czech weapons..... http://go.to/czechforum
first and foremost theyre is a bad bad batch of bulgarian ammo that destroys cz's,good thing is the cz stays intact unlike most pistols ive seen blow a slide off,chech this link out for details on casehead stamps and pics of a destroyed cz,this guy blew 2 of them not just one with this ammo. http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Gorge/4653/bad.htm also OG has good cz info too.on the main page u will find a link.
hollow points i believe can be gotten here: http://www.owlnet.com/quality/index.html.
more ammo below.......... http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ctd/default.asp http://www.centuryarms.com/ http://www.empirearms.com/ http://www.jgsales.com/
Centerfire Systems,
Inc(1-800-950-1231)......7.62x25 S&B
non-corrosive boxer primed in quantities of 1000, 500 or 50 rounds.
RTC Sports, Inc (1-800-686-7824).....7.62x25 Sellier&Bellot non-corrosive boxer primed in quantities of 1000, 500, or 100 rounds.
Gibbs Rifle Company (304)262-1651.....7.62x25 Czech lacquered steel cases in 2,280 rounds per case quantity.
need to call the cz company? here you go.....
CZ-USA P.O.
Box 171073 Kansas City, Kansas 66117-0073 Phone: (913) 321 1811 or (800) 955-4486 Fax (913)
321 2251 e-mail: czusa@gvi.net Staff names: Alice, Joseph, and Robert
info on manufacturer.
The CZ-52 was a short recoil roller locked pistol firing the 7.62mm (m-4 cartridge. It was designed by Jan Kratochvil and manufactured by Presne Strojirentsvi, Uhersky Brod, in Moravia. It carried the factory code "rid."(mine is a rid model! ) )
(Other post-WWII codes of this factory were "AYM," "tgf," and "she."
None of these codes were found on the CZ-52 pistols.) The Czech Army adopted the CZ-52 on May 17, 1952.
MARKINGS,STAMPS,BARREL CONVERSIONS
ok the 2 numerals in the side of the frame denotes the year built:ie:52-55 etc means.the nid or rid means its a brno plant in czeck built pistol.the t on the barrel chamber means its been proofed and tested.crossed swords denotes service pistol as well as being marked rid.if your going to get a 9mm barrel ,do it,easy to replace ,just follow directions .first remove the slide,now find a drill bit to fit the hole on lock block,make sure to push both rollers in towards the middle and then pullit forward to muzzle and up you now can slide the barrel out.IF you get the 9x19 barrel theyre are some modifacations you must make to the extractor ;namely removing it from slide and then rounding the lower corner along the exposed length so it slides over the rim of the rd. ,thats it.done with mods.reinstall the extractor .the 9x19 rounds are short in the magazine well with the caliber conversion barrel but the 147 gr.will work well in the cz as well as the 115 gr. 9mm ammo.so dont freak out when you stack the mag up and see a short round in a big mag space,they feed ok in mine no sweat.it works .i chose the 9x19 barrel purely out of availability and a wider range of loads given.some guys have made mag followers and blocked theyre mag walls with a 3\16th strip but theyres no need for that,some have had the mag feed lips built up to be longer which is the ideal cure i feel.keep in mind that nowadays the 9x19 nato is the cheapest to get in all the different cals. for the cz.what i want is a barrel in 38 acp colt for my cz52! also note that on the federal barrels i have spoken with the company and they do indeed have a tite chamber on them ,i have since polished mine out to a 600 grit finish and also polished the feeding ramp as well,upon my testing at 25 yards as of last friday,i had 1-2 inch groups in a 4 inch circle with a modified weaver hold in a combat stance.i found that also tilting the pistol when releasing the slide will indeed cause failure to feed with short 115 grain ammo as when the port is facing upwards the round will fall to the left causing a stop feed.other than charging the weapon normally it works everytime,i will test 143 grain soon,other than that it was very reliable while shooting before the ramp polish and feed lip polish.also take note as some of the locking blocks are soft so that the rollers will peen into them, i have to call federal barrels again and see if they will have an answer or a part for me but after last weeks 150 round break in on a new 9mm nato barrel i was displeased to say the least with seeing this on mine while cleaning my cz52 up after the shoot.i found also it VERY controlable too in all modes of firing as well as rapid dispencement of rounds.
MOST IMPORTANT STAMPING MARK OF ALL
look for a Z stamping on the trigger gaurd.this means its had the new hammer decocker safety installed ,if not and its a century arms st.albans import piece ,send it to them after a phone call they will do the fix and send back for free. theyre have been reports of cz's going off when lowering hammer with decocker method altho i have yet to have one on mine which are z stamped.its on either side of the trigger gaurd near grip.
for you tokarev shooters of the t33 heres a 9mm barrel conversion from sks man 40$!!!!!
www.sksman.com/access/tokarev.html
my trigger mods for more accurate shot placements after last shootin session i decided to hone out the sear and hammer and all faces on the trigger bar etc.markedly notable improvement now on the general feel and use of it compared to the way it was as.next im working on a overtravel fix to keep that trigger from over traveling
when shot ala adjustable so i can get just a 1\16th of space between it after shot is fired off. will probably be located inside the frame as i look at this now.will keep posted,just thot id share another mod. with ya all.i also buffed out the firing pin as well with jewelers rouge to a nice polish,on the sear and hammer and bar faces i used a 800 grit silicon stone for that.you may have a hard time getting the end tab that makes contact to the trigger bar polished but take your time it can be done if carefully approached right with out zapping the
rest of the fullcock step as well on the sear itself.it really makes for a much better feel and shot now imho........
this is from mikes site.....After WWII the Czechoslovakian Military was looking for a first class military sidearm. Trials were held beginning in 1948, and several prototypes were tested including some in 9mm parabellum. None of the early prototypes were found to be acceptable and in 1950 Ceska Zbrojovka (Bohemian Arms Factory) concentrated it's efforts on a design based on the Russian 7.62x25mm caliber.
Initial tests in 1951 on this design were also unsatisfactory. An improved pistol was tested again in early 1952 and was adopted by the Czech Armed Forces in May of 1952 as the Model 52 (or CZ- 52). The contract for the Model 52 began in 1952 and was completed in 1954. Exact quantities produced are unknown but estimated at between 200,000 and 220,000 pistols. The Model 52 employs a roller locking system thought to have been inspired by the German MG-42 machine gun. Roller locking designs have also been used successfully for years on many Heckler and Koch rifles but are seldom seen on pistols. The Model 52 has a three position frame
mounted safety lever. In the downward position a red dot is visible and the pistol is ready to fire. In
the middle position the safety blocks the trigger bar and engages the hammer rebound notch. In this "safed" position the pistol can be carried cocked & locked or safely unloaded. Pushing the lever all the way up decocks the pistol. The magazine is held in place by a lever at the bottom rear of the magazine well. There is no magazine safety. Originally manufactured with a nice light grey parkerized finish many CZ-52's can be found on the surplus market with a dark blue (hot dipped)finish. These pistols were part of a refurbishment program in the late 70's and can also be identified by the letters "VOZ" plus the year of re-work stamped above the trigger. The CZ-52 is a great shooter, and right now there is an abundance of surplus ammo available. Norinco makes a steel case non-corrosive (so they say) commercial ammo. I found it to be a bit anemic, and I have heard that steel cases are tough on extractors. I haven't tried the Chinese
military surplus but I doubt that it's much different than the commercial stuff. My favorites are the Bulgarian and Polish surplus. The lots that I've had were brass case, very clean, surefire and cycled my pistols flawlessly. The Czech ammo is also available and it's loaded much hotter than
the rest. It's lots of fun and the CZ-52 was designed around this load but it's still a little disconcerting to see your pistol turn into a flame belching hand cannon. I don't feed my CZ's a steady diet of the Czech ammo for fear of excessive wear. Virtually all the surplus in 7.62x25 is corrosive, but don't turn your nose up at corrosive ammo like many people I talk to at gun shows do. It's priced right, and if you clean your gun shortly after shooting it will be fine. I pull the barrel out and run it under hot water while pushing a soapy brush through it. After I'm done the warm barrel dries quickly and I lightly oil it inside and out. The CZ-52 is a typical piece of Czech quality workmanship, it's fun to shoot, and right now they are
plentiful and inexpensive. If you don't get one now you may wish you had once they all disappear. NOTE---Be careful of the firing pin. It's cast steel and will last indefinitely under normal usage but if
subjected to repeated dry firing may break prematurely.
more 9x19 conv. info
actually i have been in close contact with Karl at mak.com, thats where im getting the barrel from in 9x19,actually he is quite a nice guy to deal with , the order got shipped a bit late as im pressed for time here
(moving to new apt the 1st) so he threw in a gift cert. and some extra goodies as well. on the conversion itself to 9 nato the extractor lower half gets rounded and smoothed ,the smoothing has no ill effects on the 7.62 when changing back . some guys have done a mag modification by making a new follower and
adding in a 1/8th strip in the mag in back pinning it, i have talked to some others who say use the 124 grain rounds or the heavy 140's and have had no probs. the new barrel was 70$ on sale so i just had to
get it as up here in mid north maine ammo in 7.62 is a pain to get, but nonetheless a great round.i also got the hardened steel rollers. as of now i use an uncle mikes wraparound sleeve over stock grips that were sanded out and shot in 10 coats of epoxy black spray paint and cured under a lamp for a week or so to a hard finish, altho i just be making a set of walnuts at some point. it was a arsenal rework as well, the
punched dots on the slide top is the giveaway, the amount of dots eqauls how worn the pistol was when shipped in for rework or how accurate it is.mine was essentially mint inside and no barrel wear at all. the parkerizing was somewhat not my cup of coffee so i reblued it blue/black reminiscent of the eastern combloc police
pistols.hers an interesting note tho , if you look carefully at the trigger gaurd on either side look for a Z stamping, this if you have it means your pistol has had the mods necessary so when decocking on a live round it will not go off. if not contact century arms and they will fix and ship back for free or maybe just send you the new saftey. the trigger was nice and crisp at 3 lbs even, i like the combat sights as the hang up less than a set of targets would but im now thinking of just changing the rear to a modified and rounded somewhat target set.the weirdest comment i have had yet was "who raped your mauser?!" outrageous at best. also after looking for extra stuff i have seen these sky rocket upwards of 190-240$$ on the net and in the shops lately as theyre drying up some in stocks. one strong piece. i have been looking for a cz50 in 32 acp lately locally so i dont have to pay an extra 50$ in shipping ffl fee's as well as that tok33/48/54, the cz 70 was good with the extra round capacity but not as accurate as ive heard........