need ideas for long range rifle..WTB

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HK1

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looking for ideas on something out of the ordinary...I have pretty much decided on a 300 win mag or 308///30.06..been looking heavily at a browning a-bolt..but...what should i be looking at...maybe one of the new FN police sniper rifles?.......really need some suggestions here.....only thing I am concerned about is a range over 500 yards..which means 26 inch bore length
I would appreciate your thoughts..thanx..HK-out
 
What are you going to do with it? Join a SWAT team? Shoot paper? Tactical comps? You get the idea. Different things call for different tools.
 
Why not try a single shot?
A few years back I purchased a Browning in 30-06.
The action is a falling block and it's very very accurate at ranges over 300 yards.
I out shot a guy in a speed competition a few years back against a bolt action Remington.
The exact make I traded in to buy the Browning.
I like the Ruger's and they all come in great range of calibers.
An they're real pretty!
 
Depends on the job to be done!

Hunting, 'Sniping', Competition, or just cause it's "Neat" to hit something a long way away.
I'm a fan of single shots and use them for distance shots just for the Hell of it & to check how 'good' my shooting skills have gotten.
*Hint* shoot at some kind of 'reactive' target, unless you have an ATV at your disposal, 5 or 600 yds is a long way to walk to check targets... on a hot day:rolleyes:
In my wild youth, I shot an M1 in competition out to 600 yds with issue sights. When the shoot was over, we'd expend leftover ammo at a Gong target hung from a goalpost arrangement at 1000yds. The target was a steel plate about the size of a VWBug. This was using issue 'iron' sights and M2 ball ammo.
The Gong got rung a lot! Just a matter of the proper sight settings. = FUN!:D
 
Hk, why not look at the Remington 700 Senderos. They are in long action calibers like the 300WM. They are great rifles and it's much easier to find long range angled scope mounts and other goodies for a Remington because of it's popularity in the sniping and long range competition circles. Also they only run about $650 so the price is right too. If you're looking at a short action like the .308 then they make the 700VS which is the same as the Sendero but short action. Good luck.
 
try the savage in either 30-06 or 300 win mag with the heavey barrel you will be very happy.... so will your wallet.........
 
Here's what you want...

American Rifleman, Oct 2001 page 74...Armalite AR-30.

Shoots a .338 Laupa Mag. More ME than a 458 Win Mag. Flatter shooting than a 300 Win Mag. With their muzzle brake kicks less than a .243. Shoots 3/4" groups.

List price of $1,180. What's not to love???? I may just order one of these. What a great 1,000 yard prarie dog gun!
 
Redneck, my friend Steve is on the waiting list for one of the Armalite AR 30s in 338 Lapua Mag. They won't be coming out until about March per Armalite. If you know someone with an FFL then the dealer cost is about $750. My friend works at a gun shop so his will run him about $800 after paying the owner. Not bad for that rifle. I have a friend with one of the AR 50s and he says the muzzle break really helps on the .50 so it should definately work with the .338LM. I bought him some dies and .338 300 grain Sierra Match Kings for Christmas already. The bullets came in today. Man are they huge! I would not want to get hit with one of those. I'll post next year how the rifle shoots when he gets it. It would definately be on my list if I was looking for a long range gun.

There are a few down sides with that round though. The brass is pretty expensive. $200 for 100 rounds of Lapua brass but Sinclair has Norma brass for $118 per 100. Also it uses alot of powder and barrel life is a little low. Ibelieve it's around 1500-2000 rounds which isn't bad for a big magnum. There are always trade offs with everything though.
 
No idea as to your experience level, HK1, but if anywhere close to a newbie, I'd suggest getting a .308 in a Remington 700 ADL & doing the "tweak bit" yourself.

Reasoning is that you'll get to learn some ins & outs of tweaking a rifle - something you'll have to learn about sooner or later, if you ply the trade.

ADLs are Rem's entry level rifle. The action is as good as any other. The triggers are adjustable to better than what you'd expect for any other off-the-shelf rifle. Other rifles may have better tweakable factory triggers - but, I don't know of 'em.

Glass-bedding & free-floating, if necessary, are good skills to understand the whys & why nots - cheap on a rather inexspensive rifle.

The wood stock isn't going to be any problem whatsoever unless you are in very extreme conditions.

About $350 for rifle & another same-same for the scope (I would not scrimp in this area) & you have a package that will get you in the starter ball park.
 
I second the choice of a Savage heavy barreled rifle with a synthetic or laminated stock. Get one in the caliber you like and spend as much on the glass as you did the rifle you won't be sorry. Also whatever you get I would recommend having a pro bed the action to the stock for you. that is unless you have done several succesfully before. Again, you won't be sorry.

If you have the money take a hard look at the H&S series of long distance/sniper rifles. These weapons are shooting .25 MOA out of the box and will outshoot 90% of the people that try them.

Still expensive but cheaper than the H&S is the Remington series of heavy barreled rifles like the Senderos, Heavy Barreled Varmit and police versions. They have the same basic actions as the H&S and sport an H&S stock but less care has been paid to thier assembly and fit. If you get one of these have a pro bed the action to the stock even if it has the metal bedding system. Don't ask how I learned this. Suffice to say my 25-06 Sendero will fling a common Hornady SPBT with .25 MOA accuracy. same as the H&S sniper units but at 1/2 the price.

Have fun!
 
The eternal question.....what is the intended use of the rifle? It's going to be a hell of a variance of recommendations depending on if you're just doing everyday plinking, competition, or you're taking tactical shooting courses/competitions. When I began looking, I found this to be a good guide:

http://www.snipercountry.com/Intro/intro.htm

I'd also recommend perusing the Duty Roster archives. If you're serious about long range shooting, there's a WEALTH of info to be found there.
 
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