I got these at a sale the first one has pat Nov 17, 08 pats pending on the bottom of the grip fr
ame, also has serial number 63961 on trigger guard it is a 38 S&W has a 2 1/2" barrel... next one reads national arms co NY USA on the barrel rib, serial number on bottom of grip frame 11214 barrel is 3 1/4" it is also a 38 S&W need age and value.....Thanks
I'm not good with pics so excuse the lousey pics