This is pistol i got from a auction.Under the barrel is marked belgium and a serial number 6xx.it has a capital r with a three point crown and a pineapple shape with the letters elg fl.22.l. all marked on the left side on barrel also has a l with a * marked in a few different places.All help will be much appreciated any ?s ask and i will help as much as possible.
Need Help identifying this.
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TheShootist1894
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Looks like a Flobert parlor rifle that has been hacked, and pistol stock put on, I have on in 32 Rimfire, shoots good, but not terribly desirable i am afraid.. . .
If that is a cut down rifle you may have more serious issues to deal with than .22 ammunition. You can make a pistol out of the same type of receiver a rifle uses IF the receiver was never a rifle and never intended to be a rifle. Once a rifle always a rifle. I am no NFA expert, but it may be able to be done with the proper paperwork through the ATF. A bit too late in this case though. You may, repeat MAY, be in possession of a restricted firearm. The stock certainly appears to not be of the same quality as the rest of it. It appears to be done later and by an amature.
I personally would not have that thing any longer than it took to get an answer in writing from an expert. Then keep it if it is legal, or surrender it if it is not.
I personally would not have that thing any longer than it took to get an answer in writing from an expert. Then keep it if it is legal, or surrender it if it is not.
I don't know, does NFA apply to creaking pre 1898 relic guns? If you sawed off a flintlock to make it into a pistol, is that bad? How about the fact that you can make some black powder guns for your own use? Well with that thing, probably impossible to prove it was never a pistol to begin with. What are they gonna do? Email Flobert in Belgium and ask them about it? 
Good point, and I do not believe pre 1898 arms count. With that in mind, I have no experience with dating Flobert rifles. I did say MAY, and I still think finding out for sure is the way to go. They can be awfully unforgiving on the subject.
That, and photos are now plastered on an internet site where many 'types' of folks commonly view things.
Good luck to the OP, and I will now leave it to others.
That, and photos are now plastered on an internet site where many 'types' of folks commonly view things.
Good luck to the OP, and I will now leave it to others.
thanks alot guys.If indeed this is a illegal piece can i take it back to the place i got it from and demand my money back.The store is a well known store here in town.will they get in trouble for selling it to me if i have a problem returning it.i do not want it if it is going to cause issues for me.
They did make pistols using those actions, so it would be up to someone to prove that it was made after 1898 and that it wasn't a pistol originally, and I can't see anyone doing so or anyone from BATFE bothering. ("Joe, forget about tracking those two dozen terrorist bombers, and go get that guy with the Flobert pistol." Sure.)
The action is what is called the Warnant action or improved Flobert. The original Flobert had no locking mechanism at all except a heavy hammer with the firing pin built in. Using high pressure rounds could result in the empty case coming back at the shooter. The Warnant action has a hinged breechblock and is a lot stronger, though still suitable only for low pressure cartridges.
Jim
The action is what is called the Warnant action or improved Flobert. The original Flobert had no locking mechanism at all except a heavy hammer with the firing pin built in. Using high pressure rounds could result in the empty case coming back at the shooter. The Warnant action has a hinged breechblock and is a lot stronger, though still suitable only for low pressure cartridges.
Jim