Need help identifying! H&R .38 S&W black powder cartridge?

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Hello,

I pick up this cool revolver for 100 bucks. it needs parts for trigger assembly, but not sure what model it is.

I was told "This is a H&R .38 S&W black powder catridge (NOT .38 Special) break top 5 shot police pocket revolver. It is a copy of the Smith and Wesson 5 shot revolver of the period. It is extremely rare to see one in .38 instead of .32. Only 10,000 made of this model. It's last patent date is 1896, but the serial number dates it to 1903. So, technically it is considered a modern firearm. It is not registered to anyone and a Red Ryder BB gun is more of a menace to society.

This is the same model revolver that was used in the attempted assassination of Teddy Roosevelt!!!

The sights are basically microscopic and don't really have a purpose. And the grips were made for someone with really small hands. Max effective range of 10 feet.

It is missing all of the internal parts that hold the hammer back, and advance the cylinder. The trigger swings free, and the main spring is present. The missing parts are about $50 online."

Here is what's on the top:
harrington & richardson arms company worcester mass usa
pat oct.4.87 may 14 & aug.8.83,april 2:95.april 7.1886

on the cylinder: 314

on the frame under the grip: 18314

Any help in identifying this weapon would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks K.C.
 

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Sorry about that, it's a quote from the seller i got it from. i just cut and pasted. i thought that was a foolish comment as well...
 
lol

Sellers sometimes make things up...

As for the revolver. I am just not sure which model it is...Positive it is not a 925 though...

How long is the barrel measured from the front of the cylinder face?
 
OK, I'll say it.

You paid $100 for a gun with no internal parts that in working condition would be worth $75. And you plan to spend more for parts?

Sorry, but you were ripped off and the whole sales pitch was ... a sales pitch. I don't know who sold the gun to you, but I doubt you can get your money back, so cut your losses and toss the gun into the junk box.

I stongly suggest you consider the deal a learning experience* and go on from there.

Jim

*OK, I confess. Mine was buying a Gaulois palm pistol that I thought had a broken spring; when I got it home, I found out all the internal parts were missing! Oooops! I still have it; it makes a neat display piece and every time I see it I am reminded of my "learning experience".

JK
 
I don't know if I am violating a Firing Line rule, but I suggest you get some better pictures and post over on www.thefirearmsforum.com . Jim Hauff, who resides over there, is a real expert on H&R revolvers. I know something about them, but will always defer to Jim as THE expert on them.

Jim
 
I have one just like it in my collection... ( btw... sorry, but I paid $75.00 for the whole gun in functioning condition )

these early guns were a pain to work on, as they didn't have side plates, & the parts were soft, surface hardened at best, & didn't hold up well under heavy use, & were often corroded from black powder residue... I do shoot all of mine, but load very light loads of Trailboss, & make sure my lockwork is well lubed...

on the positive, alot of folks have several of these kinds of guns laying around in junk / parts bins, so you may be able to find a lock work for not much money, if you like tinkering... as a word of warning, my retired gun smith buddy hates working on these, because of the size, lack of good parts, & the fact they are double action
 
In its present condition it is, indeed, less effective than a bb gun.
I vote for fixing it.
One can never have too many guns, especially in that price range.
 
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