Need an accurate hand gun bullet ( 9mm 45acp )

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OK not really but I was at the range for my first just shooting for fun day in over a year ( yea to me :) ) We were shooting steel after hours at the range . We had a large bank of plates set up at 30'-ish and one 8" plate set up at 100yds for rifle .

So there we are plinking away at both distances when my buddy comes over to where I'm shooting rifle at the 100yd plate . He proceeds to shoot his 9mm at the 8" plate hitting it an average of 1 out of every 4 shots . I thought how cool was that and grabbed my 9mm and started shooting . 25 shots later and I never hit it :( I was low , high , left and right sometimes as much as 1-1/2 feet so a 3' spread . Hmm I know I shoot on avg better then he does so what's going on , I think to my self . I think maybe it's my reloads because I'm just using 115gr platted RN bullets . Although pretty accurate at 25' maybe 100yds is asking to much of these bullets so I ask to shoot some of the factory rounds he's shooting . I hit the target on the 5th shot using his ammo .

He then looks at me and says your reloads aren't that good are they . I then explain my plated bullets theory and take my knife and carve a chunk off the side/tip area of the bullet showing how thin the plating is . I then loaded that round and fired it at the target . Yep that's right , I hit it with that deformed bullet :eek: It was likely just a coincidence but still was surprising none the less . We laughed about that for awhile .

The rounds in question were
115gr Rainier PLRN
5.4gr Titegroup

I think my issue is if I even care I can't hit a 8" plate at 100yds with my XD-9 ? I'll likely be doing this type of shooting more and more so I think I should at least try to load more accurately .

Any of you shooting cheaper platted bullets at longer ranges ? If so what brand and or type or profile seem to work best ?
 
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That is a MIGHTY hot loading of titegroup. Id back off it and see if things improve. I run my cast lead bullets at 3.9 grains and they run everything I own just dandy. Plated should be ran at cast pressures.
 
I don't expect great things out of platted (sic) bullets.
If I want to shoot a pistol at 100 yards it will be with first class jacketed or handcast bullets.
Hornady, Nosler, and Zero JHPs are pretty good.

5.4 gr Titegroup is 12.5% more than Hodgdon maximum for 115 gr Speer. That is +P+ country.
 
9mm = 125 grain Hornady HAP
For plated try Berrys 124 FP or 124 HBFP

45 = 185 grain Zero JHP or Nosler JHP
 
Ah ha! Dang dyslexia! Thats closer to sane. Non the less, might play with loadings or OAL. Othereise Ive had really good luck with everglades jacketed bullets. Not the cheapest but really good quality for the price.
 
Bullets: in general, JHP and SWC are most accurate (other than swaged L-HBWC for .38 Spl and .32 S&W Long), followed by flat nose, and ending with RN.

For 9x19, size all your cases and sort by length. Save the ones that are longer than 0.751" for when you want best accuracy.
.45 Auto is not sensitive to case length.

9x19: Zero 121gn 38 super JHP or several .38 JHPs. Bullseye shooters stay with 115gn bullets almost exclusively, with Nosler or Zero being the top choices (Powder Valley has the Zero 115gn JHP for $283.50/3000—just over 9 cents/bullet)

.45 Auto: Zero 200gn swaged L-SWC, Magnus 200gn swaged L-SWC, or Precision Bullets 200gn swaged and coated L-SWC

Ideally, for all 9x19: slug the barrel and use a jacketed bullet at least the same diameter as actual groove diameter, a plated bullet (if you must waste your money) at least 0.001" over actual groove diameter, and lead bullets that are at least 0.001" (and 0.002" is often better) over actual groove diameter.

Use a relatively slow powder for 9x19 (Power Pistol is the best I have found and Silhouette is second, with BE-86 being a possibility).
 
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WARNING: The following data is unconventional and although it worked for me use it at your own risk.

I loaded some .357" 110 grain Sierra JHC bullets using the data for the 115 grain loads in the 9mm and got some very surprisingly accurate loads. I had to seat the bullets deeper in order to have them chamber but they worked so well I kept the record in my logs. Hornady also makes a 110 grain .357 bullet that they have data for in 38 ACP and 38 super. The added .002" will not raise pressure a lot and using the data for the 115 grain bullet more than offsets any gain in pressure.
 
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