Need a hand IDing a revolver

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Hi everyone- im new here- not to guns (im a dealer). Im hoping someone here can give me a hand identifying an older 22lr break top revolver.

I picked it up on impulse because its different and I thought perhaps id give it to my dad just for fun.

It says "Young American" on the barrel...so I immediately figured it was an H&R...but it says made in Germany all over it?

in the group pic it is the gun in the bottom right corner- the others arethings I also picked up recently.

What do you think?

Thanks in advance.
 

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Well, it is not an H&R, I don't know what it is, it really doesn't look like any German gun I'm familiar with, not even the cheap ones. it looks more Spanish Eibar than German and the Germans ( pre-war ) did import a few Spanish pistols, but if it is roll marked , made in Germany, don't have the foggiest.
 
As you may European revolvers are notoriously hard to ID. Could be a Rohm or a Valor, though I haven't seen one with an extractor rod like yours. That's a pretty distinctive extractor rod.
 
Interesting info... this one is definitely marked 22LR, Made in Germany (x3 places) and Young American on the barrel.
im baffled too- I sell guns, I have handled/fired/researched/sold thousands of them I have never seen this one.
 
Google is telling me that H&R did import a Young American 22LR
This one the OP posted does not line up exactly with any google image search.
Possibly PRE H&R..A Herbert & Schmidt maybe???
 
Most likely, if it says "Made in Germany" it's probably pre-WWII, maybe even pre-WWI, as post WW-II guns were generally marked "Made in West Germany" for many years.

Google is telling me that H&R did import a Young American 22LR
Click to expand...

H&R's revolver was called Young America, not American.
 
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Commercially imported guns have to carry the name of the importer; since that gun has no maker's or importer's name, it was probably bought in Germany, maybe by an American service member, and brought in. Guns like that may be almost unknown in the U.S., since they were not imported in any quantity.

Jim
 
I meant to ask you: Do the grips have any kind of a trademark or logo on them? If so, a good CLEAR photo might be of some help.

At this point, I'm offering a complelely uneducated guess that it might be an old Pickert, Arminius or Omega. The one photo of an Omega, in particular, showed a cylinder of very similar construction to the one on your gun, i.e. the cylinder stop cuts were of a similar configuration.
 
AFAIK, all those guns and all the other German revolvers of that general type that I know of are either solid frame or swing out cylinder revolvers. Top breaks are pretty uncommon in German guns, though there were a lot of English revolvers made that way. That one is really a mystery.

Jim
 
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