Nebraska Legislature Passes CCW
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TheBluesMan
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I understand that they voted to break the filibuster (finally - after *how many* years?). Is the vote tally above the filibuster vote or the approval of the bill vote?
http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_pg=1638&u_sid=2131492
That's good news but don't like the idea that cities can pass ordinances banning concealed weapons.
At one time in my state we had the same problem but then someone was able to find out that it was unconstitutional (State Constitution) for cites to pass ordinaces that deprived citicens rights based on where you lived in the state.
At one time in my state we had the same problem but then someone was able to find out that it was unconstitutional (State Constitution) for cites to pass ordinaces that deprived citicens rights based on where you lived in the state.
Garand Illusion
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It is a done deal, BTW:
Good news for Nebraska!!!
Not a perfect law, but better than what they have now.
Good news for Nebraska!!!
Not a perfect law, but better than what they have now.
Mike Irwin
Staff
And on the 25th anniversary of Ronald Reagan being shot.
What with Kansas a few days ago, and now Nebraska, Jim & Sarah Brady must be contemplating hemp ropes...
Going to the Brady state grades I see that Nebraska has a B-.
But that was apparently issued before today's actions...
Oh SNAP!
What with Kansas a few days ago, and now Nebraska, Jim & Sarah Brady must be contemplating hemp ropes...
Going to the Brady state grades I see that Nebraska has a B-.
But that was apparently issued before today's actions...
Oh SNAP!
For details
Here is a link to the www.unicam.state.ne.us/update/index.htm for some of the details. It is interesting that one of the last minute moves to stop it was an attempt to raise fees considering that the state is planning on making over a million dollars off of concealed carriers in the first year - check this out - on the unicam website there is a bill tracker that you can read the bill as introduced, all of the amendments that were proposed, the final version. etc., as well as a FISCAL NOTE. This estimate of expenditures and revenues by the affected agencies (State Patrol and DMV) gives expenditures as $798,000 for the creation of 14 total positions and operating expenses, and revenues of $1,900,000. I believe that the revenue raised is probably a major factor that the bill passed, that and they finally grew a set and stood up to Chambers and a couple of others that are awaiting retirement due to term limits.
Anyway, the governor has said he will sign it, but here is the kicker, the State Patrol is in charge now. The SP opposed concealed carry. They have all of the authority to decide on what training will be necessary as well as what training and by who will be acceptable. They are to develop the standards, and train or certify the instructors. The new law will go into effect on Jan. 1, 2007 but if the SP does not have any training certified at that time you can't get a permit. Also, according to the text of the law, applications must be made at a SP Troop Headquarters, (or an office set up by them for this purpose) there are 5 in the state. For some people this will mean round trips of over 200 miles to apply. (I doubt they will open too many offices outstate when they are only going to create 14 positions total in both SP and DMV to create the whole system). This also applies to my concerns with the training requirement, where will it be available, both for the people and even for the instructors, where will they be trained and in what kind of program? Given the very limited number of indoor ranges or even halfway developed shooting facilities in the state this is a very real concern. If they hold instructor training at the Law Enforcement Training Center in Grand Island that could be 400+ mile round trip for some plus food and lodging to attend. For the concerned citizen who lives out in Chadron if the only place to get "approved" training is in Lincoln or Omaha that is about a 1000 mile roundtrip.
Oh well, it passed, it is shall issue, and we are gaining ground. Now to make sure that the "rules" aren't too strict, and work for reciprocity which has not been mentioned yet.
bergie
Here is a link to the www.unicam.state.ne.us/update/index.htm for some of the details. It is interesting that one of the last minute moves to stop it was an attempt to raise fees considering that the state is planning on making over a million dollars off of concealed carriers in the first year - check this out - on the unicam website there is a bill tracker that you can read the bill as introduced, all of the amendments that were proposed, the final version. etc., as well as a FISCAL NOTE. This estimate of expenditures and revenues by the affected agencies (State Patrol and DMV) gives expenditures as $798,000 for the creation of 14 total positions and operating expenses, and revenues of $1,900,000. I believe that the revenue raised is probably a major factor that the bill passed, that and they finally grew a set and stood up to Chambers and a couple of others that are awaiting retirement due to term limits.
Anyway, the governor has said he will sign it, but here is the kicker, the State Patrol is in charge now. The SP opposed concealed carry. They have all of the authority to decide on what training will be necessary as well as what training and by who will be acceptable. They are to develop the standards, and train or certify the instructors. The new law will go into effect on Jan. 1, 2007 but if the SP does not have any training certified at that time you can't get a permit. Also, according to the text of the law, applications must be made at a SP Troop Headquarters, (or an office set up by them for this purpose) there are 5 in the state. For some people this will mean round trips of over 200 miles to apply. (I doubt they will open too many offices outstate when they are only going to create 14 positions total in both SP and DMV to create the whole system). This also applies to my concerns with the training requirement, where will it be available, both for the people and even for the instructors, where will they be trained and in what kind of program? Given the very limited number of indoor ranges or even halfway developed shooting facilities in the state this is a very real concern. If they hold instructor training at the Law Enforcement Training Center in Grand Island that could be 400+ mile round trip for some plus food and lodging to attend. For the concerned citizen who lives out in Chadron if the only place to get "approved" training is in Lincoln or Omaha that is about a 1000 mile roundtrip.
Oh well, it passed, it is shall issue, and we are gaining ground. Now to make sure that the "rules" aren't too strict, and work for reciprocity which has not been mentioned yet.
bergie
Robert J McElwain
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Go Nebraska!!!!
Bob
Bob
Roadkill Coyote
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I spotted this thread down towards the middle of the page. As I hate to see a truly important bit of good news get buried, congratulations Nebraska! 
psycho nut
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I was talking to some people at school today and found out it got passed. On to the other two.
I know it. It just irks me. You want somethin screwed up? Let the politicians handle it. We already have a permit to purchase a pistol,(good guy card) That we pay $5 for. theres plenty of room on it to put CC permit as well. We already go through a background check to get that. That should be all thats needed. As mentioned above the NSP will be in charge and they will make it a PITA to get. I am happy we got what we got, but after all the years of fightin this fight I kinda feel like someone somewhere is trying to make me feel like I won so I'll shut up and go away. Does that make sense or am I just being bullheaded and petulent? Tell me the truth. ERIC
MicroBalrog
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As I always say: This is not nearly good enough.
Two Down.
Forty-Eight to go.
Two Down.
Forty-Eight to go.
pipoman-
yeah the people voted in term limits a couple of years ago, so over half the Unicameral is getting the boot at the end of their curent term. Only problem is some of these "representatives" think they know better than the people and have filed suit with the state supreme court to get the term limit law thrown out so they can remain in office.
big ruger-
The initial fee is $100, renewal is $50. But yeah, it does suck that you have to pay to exercise your rights, kind of like a poll tax, wait, that is illegal.
Your other point about our "Handgun Purchase Certificate" is another thing, this really should replace that card instead of continuing to require it for cc license holders. Don't know what they will do with that.
The $5 "preapproved for 3 years" status of that permit is nice in that it does save a few minutes when purchasing any gun, but I never really did understand the requirement to have it rather than just phoning in the checks as they do for long guns for people that don't have it. They other thing that bothers me about it is that it is being misused and many private sellers "require" it for any firearm. Ever try to buy a shotgun or rifle at an estate or farm auction? that is a private sale not a transfer by an ffl holder but they (the auctioneers) usually require a "Handgun Purchase Certificate" to buy anything.
Yeah, lots of questions left here.
bergie
yeah the people voted in term limits a couple of years ago, so over half the Unicameral is getting the boot at the end of their curent term. Only problem is some of these "representatives" think they know better than the people and have filed suit with the state supreme court to get the term limit law thrown out so they can remain in office.
big ruger-
The initial fee is $100, renewal is $50. But yeah, it does suck that you have to pay to exercise your rights, kind of like a poll tax, wait, that is illegal.
Your other point about our "Handgun Purchase Certificate" is another thing, this really should replace that card instead of continuing to require it for cc license holders. Don't know what they will do with that.
The $5 "preapproved for 3 years" status of that permit is nice in that it does save a few minutes when purchasing any gun, but I never really did understand the requirement to have it rather than just phoning in the checks as they do for long guns for people that don't have it. They other thing that bothers me about it is that it is being misused and many private sellers "require" it for any firearm. Ever try to buy a shotgun or rifle at an estate or farm auction? that is a private sale not a transfer by an ffl holder but they (the auctioneers) usually require a "Handgun Purchase Certificate" to buy anything.
Yeah, lots of questions left here.
bergie
without preemption I don't think we gained a thing. everybody talks about towns like Omaha and probably Lincoln that ban ccw. but what about the other towns in nebraska that probably have a ban also and don't know about it such as Kearney. it wouldn't surprise me a bit that there are quite a few towns this way. it is just up until this law got passed that it didn't matter. heck I live in a town of 3,000 and it wouldn't surprise me that it has such a law
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