Neal Knox Report - the Second Amendment was repealed

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dZ

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May 13 Neal Knox Report -- At 10:30 a.m. Thursday, the Second
Amendment was repealed.

Since that time, not one licensed dealer has sold a single firearm.

In California, which requires all private transfers to go
through a dealer, not a gun has been legally sold, traded or
exchanged.

The stated reason is a software glitch in the FBI National
Instant Check System -- a system that has been online and
functioning for 18 months.

According to notices sent to Virginia dealers this morning,
the system will be up and running at 9 a.m. tomorrow, which
coincides with the beginning of the Million Mom March and the
Second Amendment Sisters countermarch.

Yesterday, the same dealers said the system would be working
this morning.

When NRA foolishly drafted the "Instant Check" law in 1988, they provided
that if the computer system was down, sales could be completed.
The final law allows dealers to go ahead with the sale after three days,
but BATF has warned dealers not to sell -- and because of liability
worries, most will not.

We are getting a good look at our future -- unless we react.

I hope to see you at tomorrow's Armed Informed Mothers
Counter-march -- while we still have the First Amendment Freedom of
Assembly, and the Freedom to Petition the Congress for Grievances.
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There are signs that the public is beginning to catch on to
what the Million Mom March is all about -- pure politics.

Organizer Donna Dees-Thomases said Friday that her group would
transform itself into an overt political organization after
tomorrow's rally, endorsing candidates and campaigning against
pro-Second Amendment incumbents.

"Right now, we're trying to be non-partisan, but it's very
hard," she said in a press release.
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If I had never seen evidence of this administration's lying, cheating and underhanded use of coincidence, I might believe that the system went down by accident. Do I believe that anybody is working to get it back up?
Don't try to BS a BR'er.

Seriously, we should really pitch a big bitch or it will happen with increased regularly.

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Better days to be,

Ed
 
Do I not recall that the Brady law requires the dealer hold the gun for a waiting period. Thought the background check was the gov's responsibility and the gun was transferred if there was no down-check.

Did the law require suspension of sales if the government failed to do its part?

If not, is there any possible way to challenge it legally? If not, I still think it is worth squawking about.

Bentley
 
ICBentley,

If the NICS computer is down, the dealer can legally transfer the firearm after three business days, that is if he/she had submitted the purcahsers name to NICS in the first place. The problem is that the BATF has told the dealers not to do it and too many of them are afraid to try it for fear of what might happen

nralife.


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http://second.amendment.homepage.com
 
It's getting bad. What are you going to do?


Do something. Don't just say it's futile. Write letters to your Reps. Support those who are fighting back. Legal fees are tremendous.
Putting it off until tomorrow will put you in the re-education camps.
 
NRALife: The BATF has told dealers not to do something the law explicitly permits? Or else what? I'm no lawyer, but it strikes me that THAT could be actionable!

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Sic semper tyrannis!
 
Originally posted by dZ:

Organizer Donna Dees-Thomases said Friday that her group would
transform itself into an overt political organization after
tomorrow's rally, endorsing candidates and campaigning against
pro-Second Amendment incumbents.

As I recall this woman said that this was not political, that she was just a mom with a personal concern. Well what else could you expect from someone with obvious ties to the Klintons. I read that Thomases is the sister-in-law of Hillary's best friend and political advisor.



[This message has been edited by bullseye (edited May 14, 2000).]
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Neal Knox is right, "the second ammendment was just reapealed". IMHO we are being marched on this weekend, with no less clarity then why the NICS computer has halted sales.

Our executive branch of the US goverment just halted sales during the sucker moms march. Large computer data bases as these have backups which can come up within half an hour and then the master does not take 3-4 days to fix. Anyway, the goverment told us right from the begining exactly when it was comming back on line. How do you know that?????? Unless you plan that!!!!!

Furthermore, these English mommy's that our on our soil today, claim to have been instrumental in disarming Britan, there here, there on our soil, for the sucker moms march today. Subversive foriegn elements comming to our shores speaking about, consipiring to, subvert the US constitution, or at least one of its ammendments, should be met by Washington with an arrest warrant.

Instead our Atty Gen and Commander and chief will be part of the march. This is tyrany, treason, this must not stand!!!!!!

Law abiding US gun owners are being marched on; as of May 14, 2,000 ...........

This is a call to arms to all US citizens......show up at the MMM aka sucker moms march......WITHOUT WEAPONS......and march back, be heard but get your self there with a sign.......

There are no "good" excuses....show up, Protest, without guns!!!! Were all counting you YOU each and every you, this means YOU!!!!!

Second Amendment Sisters, Inc.
18484 Preston Road, Suite 102 #141
Dallas, TX 75252
Toll-free Phone: (877) 271-6216
World Wide Web: http://www.sas-aim.org
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STATE RALLIES AND DC MARCHERS GUIDE
CONTENTS
* State rallies locations and contacts
* Marchers' Guide for Washington, DC rally
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STATE RALLIES

CALIFORNIA
Los Angeles Rally
May 14th, Mothers Day, 9:00am - 1:00pm
Walkway north of Wilshire Blvd., between Veteran and
Sepulveda across from the Federal Building in
Westwood, 11000 Wilshire Blvd, site of the Los Angeles
"Million Mom March."
The information/fellowship meeting the week before
will feature PRO-RKBA veterans of marches and
demonstrations.
Thursday May 11th, 7:00 pm
American Legion Post 46
5309 S. Sepulveda Blvd.
Culver City
Contact:

Merrill Gibson at merrill@infosuper.com
Howard Krivoy at howkriv@earthlink.net
Los Angeles rally website: http://www.freecitizens.com

Sacramento Rally
Walter Mueller at communitynews@hotmail.com
(916) 441-7961

San Diego Rally
Joe Brower at joebrower@earthlink.net

COLORADO
Denver Rally
May 14th
Debra Collins at aimm_colorado@yahoo.com

IDAHO
Boise Rally
May 14th
Terri and Rick at aimm_idaho@yahoo.com

ILLINOIS
Chicago Rally
May 14
Libertarian Party of Chicago
Stephanie Sailor at moregunslesscrime@yahoo.com
Chicago Rally website: http://www.lpchicago.org/events/armedinformedmothersmarch.htm


MICHIGAN
Lansing Rally
May 14th
Eugene at beethoven@voyager.net


NEVADA
Las Vegas Rally
When: May 14th at 11:00am-2:00pm
Patricia A. Saye
LadyLiberty@hushmail.com
Tel: 702-649-6808
Where: Children's Memorial Park at Rainbow and Gowan -
just north of Cheyenne

OKLAHOMA
"Citizens For a Safer Oklahoma is planning Oklahoma's
first "Live Free or Die" Armed Informed Mother's March
to be held on Mother's Day. The march is open to all
who believe in individual freedom and liberty,
particularly the Second Amendment. We are marching in
support of the Second Amendment Sisters' Armed
Informed Mothers' March in Washington D.C. and to send
the loud and clear message to Oklahoma State
Legislature that "Gun Control is NOT OK!"."

Oklahoma City Rally
Tulsa Rally
Kathleen Tolman at ktolma@yahoo.com
(918) 477-CFSO (2376)

RHODE ISLAND
Waterplace Park, Providence
May 14, 2000 from 2-4pm
Joe McNally kce997@yahoo.com
Jay at 401 861-5239

SOUTH DAKOTA
Rapid City
Nancy at queenofparts@yahoo.com



[This message has been edited by Pooch (edited May 14, 2000).]
 
If law abiding citizens operating legal businesses are afraid of the federal government... isn't this why the founding fathers thought the second amendment was important?

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"In the middle of difficulty lies opportunity." Albert Einstein
 
FBI fixes computer problem, resumes gun sales
checks http://www.cnn.com/2000/US/05/14/instant.gunchecks.ap/
May 14, 2000
Web posted at: 11:06 AM EDT (1506 GMT)

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The FBI has fixed an internal software problem that halted gun sales
nationwide for more than two days, an official said Sunday.

The repairs allowed resumption of firearms sales that are dependent on background checks with
the bureau's criminal-history database. The system began operating again at 7:30 a.m. EDT,
according to FBI spokesman Steve Fisher.

The FBI's Interstate Identification Index, a database containing criminal histories of 36 million
people, stopped working late Thursday afternoon.

The computer failure at the FBI Criminal Information Center in Clarksburg, W.Va., halted gun
sales because it prevented completion of background checks that the Brady law requires for
buyers.

Gun dealers had hoped for a quick fix because Saturday is their busiest day. However, the
system remain down throughout the day.

Without background check approvals, gun dealers were forced to tell their customers to wait for
their guns until the system came back up and the checks could be completed.

The computer failure made it impossible for the National Instant Criminal Background Check
System, or NICS, to check the criminal histories for past felony convictions that bar people
from buying guns. Also brought down was the FBI's automated fingerprint system.

When the system is working, 72 percent of gun purchases are approved within 30 seconds, the
Justice Department says. And 95 percent of buyers get an approval or a disapproval within
two hours of their purchase application.
 
Bullseye...

She has created an executive level job for herself. Consider, now that Mom's Day is over, MMM would evaporate. However, you now have a nation-wide organization that you (she) is the head of. By converting to a political action organization, they lose tax exempt status, but also gain the ability to take in big $$$.
And she is in charge


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"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes" RKBA!
 
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