Navy flying home 3,000 lost ballots

nralife

New member
Let's hope a LOT of these are going to Florida


ELECTION 2000, Day 9
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_exnews/20001115_xex_navy_flying_.shtml


Navy flying home
3,000 lost ballots


Ship captain: 'A majority of the pilots
aboard are registered voters in Florida'


© 2000 WorldNetDaily.com


At least one major instance of missing overseas military ballots -- involving some 3,000 absentee votes -- appears to be on its way to resolution.

WorldNetDaily reported yesterday that a source on the USS Tarawa, a U.S. Navy assault ship near Yemen, said that "thousands" of absentee ballots were languishing onboard.

The Navy has now confirmed bundles of overseas ballots left behind -- not on one, but three ships in the Persian Gulf region. According to a New York Post account, Cmdr. Greg Smith, a Navy spokesman, said the ballots of some 3,000 sailors and Marines on the USS Tarawa, USS Duluth and USS Anchorage would be flown back to the United States "expeditiously."

Before the discovery of missing Navy ballots, Defense Department spokesman Kenneth Bacon and Navy Lt. Dave Gai had both criticized WorldNetDaily -- Bacon publicly at a press briefing -- for its reporting on this issue. Bacon referred to WND's initial story as "ludicrous" for reporting that some servicemen and women suspect the Clinton administration may have somehow purposely delayed sending absentee ballots to military personnel overseas because most historically vote Republican. Gai, the Pentagon spokesman quoted in two of WND's stories, had previously said he was "not aware of any large-scale problems." Nevertheless, the newssite's reports caught the attention of Rep. Joe Scarborough, R-Fla., who is now calling for a congressional investigation into the issue.

In yesterday's WND report, Oregonian Judy Krutsinger, whose brother-in-law is stationed onboard the Tarawa, said that although the Pentagon had reportedly contacted Florida election officials to inform them that mail from all area warships had been picked up Nov. 7, her relative aboard the Tarawa denied that.

"We e-mailed [him] aboard ship about that. ... [H]e e-mailed back saying [the mailbags] are still onboard," Krutsinger told WorldNetDaily. She said the mail was contained in orange bags on 17 pallets and that "ballots were not separated from regular mail, as they should have been."

A United Press International account reported comments from a Marine Corps captain from the Tarawa who helped evacuate the dead and injured from the USS Cole after it was attacked by terrorists on Oct. 12.

Capt. Van P. Brinson, who did not receive his absentee ballot, wrote in a Nov. 8 e-mail: "I cannot speak for the remainder of the crew of the Tarawa, but I do know that the majority of the Marines and sailors that I have spoken with are in the same boat. What is distressing about the situation," he added, "is that a majority of the pilots aboard are registered voters in Florida."

Florida law requires that overseas ballots be postmarked by Election Day, and Friday midnight is the deadline for the state's 67 counties to receive them.

Now that the large cache of ballots has been found, "all we're trying to do is see if there's a way to get the mail there," Smith said in the Post story.

Smith explained that the reason the shipboard mail was forgotten was because the three West Coast-based ships were preoccupied assisting the stricken Cole after it was bombed last month.

Once someone realized that the mail contained time-sensitive ballots -- whose importance is now increased dramatically because of the historically close race -- the Navy agreed to fly the ballots to the U.S. post haste.

Meanwhile, stateside, the U.S. Postal Service says it is fast-tracking military overseas ballots destined for Florida -- promising to get them to the 67 county election departments the same day they arrive in the U.S., the Post reported.

The ballots are being processed by postal employees at the Air Mail Center near Miami International Airport, according to an Associated Press report, where all overseas military mail sent to the United States arrives.

Ballots destined for South Florida counties are being driven to the appropriate post offices for same-day delivery, while those earmarked for north and central Florida counties are flown to regional mail centers, then forwarded to the local post office for delivery to election officials.

According to the AP story, as of Monday the postal service had delivered 446 military overseas ballots to Florida since Nov. 8. An unofficial Associated Press survey of 64 of Florida's 67 election supervisors showed that more than 19,300 overseas ballots had been mailed from the state. While over 10,000 had been returned -- and most of those already counted -- officials could not say how many ballots were still outstanding.

Many service personnel and their families have complained to WorldNetDaily that their ballots were sent to them by fourth class "bulk mail" -- which can delay delivery by a month or more -- instead of first class. Many others claim they never received their ballots at all.

For those stationed on the Cole, Duluth and Anchorage, at least, their votes seem to be on their way home.

"We understand the urgency of this situation and realize that the entire presidential election could rest on these ballots," said postal service spokeswoman Enola C. Rice yesterday, said the AP report.

Read Joseph Farah's column today, "Those missing military ballots."

Related stories:

Military anguishes over missing ballots

Will Congress probe military-ballot snafu?

Bacon denies WND military-ballot report

Military missing absentee ballots
 
I'd love for the military vote turn the tide against algore. It would certainly say alot about the it.
 
I can see the headlines tomorrow:
"Navy transport crashes and burns while bringing absentee ballots to Florida!"

I'd hate to be the pilot aboard that plane. We'll keep a watch out.
 
Lace-
Not only that, but this will really pin down the Republican commitment to do something to help these guys by getting 'em the resources they need.
Rich
 
If the last nail in the Gore Campaign 2000 coffin is from the loud crashing hammer of the military vote, it will be the sweetest victory.

:D

GO NAVY ! BEAT GORE !
 
That's my old ship, but in the version of the article I saw, they called it a destroyer.......like you're going to fit 3000 Marines on a destroyer. I understand that most of the pilots onboard, at least, are registered to vote in Florida.
 
My workmate's son is one of several active who said they got their ballots to late to even be counted with the rest of the country's aaaaand hes from FL.
Ofcourse to no surprise he also told his republican former marine father that everyone he knows is for Bush.
Imagine that.
Hmmm I dont see any personal insults in the above guess Ill post it.
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by nralife:
Drizzt,

Were you the one over at Free Republic raising cain about what kind of ship it was? ;)
[/quote]

Nope, 'fraid that was not me. I didn't even see that post.
 
I have looked at World Net Daily's web site and cannot consider them an unbiased source. If Bill Clinton personally invented a cure for cancer, their headline would read, "Clinton Puts Entire Segment Of Health Care Industry Out Of Business". There is too much partisanship masquerading as objective journalism on BOTH sides of the fence these days.
 
David,

Do you trust Fox News?


http://foxnews.com/election_night/111500/recount_overseas.sml

Postal Service Rushing
Military Ballots to Florida
Wednesday, November 15, 2000
By Terry Spencer

More Election Stories and Video

MIAMI - Step to the front of the line.

The U.S. Postal Service is hurrying military overseas ballots arriving in Florida
through the delivery process, getting them to the 67 county election departments
the same day they arrive in the country.

Because of the close race between Texas Gov. George W. Bush and Vice
President Al Gore to capture decisive Florida, the postal service says it is trying
especially hard to assure the ballots arrive in the proper counties before Friday's
midnight deadline.

The ballots are being separated by workers at the Air Mail Center near Miami
International Airport.

Ballots destined for South Florida counties are being driven to the appropriate post
offices for delivery that day. Those being sent to counties in north and central
Florida are being flown to regional mail centers each morning, taken to the
appropriate post office and delivered.

As of Monday, the postal service had delivered 446 military overseas ballots to
Florida's counties since Nov. 8. Tuesday's figures were not immediately available.

An informal Associated Press survey of 64 of Florida's 67 election supervisors
found that they had mailed out more than 19,300 overseas ballots. Of those, more
than 10,000 had been returned and the majority of them counted. It was not
immediately known how many ballots were outstanding. Election supervisors plan
to count the remaining ballots on Friday and send the results to the Florida
secretary of state's office.

"We understand the urgency of this situation and realize that the entire presidential
election could rest on these ballots," postal service spokeswoman Enola C. Rice
said Tuesday.

Rice said the envelopes are marked "absentee ballot," making them easy to spot
among the hundreds and sometimes thousands of pieces of military mail arriving at
the center about midnight daily.

Workers pull the ballots and mark each with a tracking number so it can be followed
through the process. Within hours, the ballots are put on trucks and planes heading
throughout the state and delivered to the counties that afternoon.

A regular piece of mail, such as a letter, normally takes one or two days to reach its
recipient, Rice said.

She said such a procedure cannot be done with civilian overseas absentee ballots
because they arrive at numerous air mail centers throughout the country, not just in
Florida.
 
Go NAVY!!!!! Tell the Postal service to give them to Lance He'll deliver on time.
Patrick

[This message has been edited by marley (edited November 16, 2000).]
 
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