NAA mini revolver question: POA/POI

dyl

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For those who have an NAA 22lr (not magnum size).

I bought one years ago and went with the slightly longer barrel.
The sighting technique I had read about (just have the ramp exposed like a shotgun bead) does not work and with this technique the pistol shoots at least 1 foot high at 5 yards. I have not been able to get good groups even with painting certain parts of the sight ramp for reference. I have tried a variety of ammo.

Is this higher POI a function of the longer barrel?
The above-mentioned sighting method was demonstrated by folks with the shorter barrel.

Does anyone with the longer barrel also hit high?
 
Mine is a 22 short. but I use a different method. When the hammer is cocked back I line it up with the front sight. so the top of the hammer and the front sight like like an " l " this technique gets me on the paper at 5 yards so long as I can keep from pulling the front sight off.
 
DejaVu, does the top of your hammer visually line up with the bottom of the front sight like a contiguous vertical line? Or does the hammer overlap any of the front sight and just "dot the i"?

Another question: is your rifling VERY shallow? Mine is, they're more like suggestions than actual rifling. Don't know how much of a difference rifled/vs smoothbore would make at 5 yards.
 
I have the hammer and the sight line up totally. Its not the way you are sopose to shoot them but for me it works.

Also if you have the 22LR or 22 magnum version you can get the laser sight. It works pretty well in my limited experience.
 
sight on NAA

Put a laser on and use it until you get the target acquired. Then remove it. I put a laser on my wife's pistol and she made a huge improvement inaccuracy.
 
"Put a laser on and use it until you get the target acquired. Then remove it. I put a laser on my wife's pistol and she made a huge improvement inaccuracy."

This is a classic post!:eek:
 
Haha! Would an improvement in inaccuracy mean worsening inaccuracy? :)

Yikes $100 for the laser....


Deja Vu, sorry I'm dense, by "line up totally" you mean the hammer completely overlaps and blocks the view of front sight? I will try that.
 
These are not 5 yard guns.

They are for point blank, bad breath distances. Stick it up the nose, behind the ear, in the temple, in the throat, in the sternum, in the spine, and pull the trigger.
 
I agree with the last 2- I think it is made to be a super close up gut gun, less about aiming and more about pointing in the general direction of. Of course there is no reason you shouldn't try to get the most accuracy out of it that you can when you're just shooting for fun. As with any gun, I'd say just play around until you find out exactly where it is hitting and practice a ton until the angle is second nature to you. There are larger guns on the market that have similarly useless sights (the LCP comes to mind) that people can get pretty dang accurate with once they're used to the feel. With a 5 shot single shot .22 revolver that you have to partially disassemble in order to reload, you won't go broke as fast as you might practicing with most other guns :)
 
Yes, I'd been consoling myself that it was really mean to be a contact gun / escape tool.

But I have seen on youtube :D people hitting plates at 25 yards or so!
You know me, I like the nice groups. If i can do 1 inch at 7-8 yards with a pocket pistol, I should darn well be able to get *some kind of group with this thing.

Funny how I still hope deep down inside I can blame this defiant little gun.
I still haven't learned.
 
"They are for point blank, bad breath distances. Stick it up the nose, behind the ear, in the temple, in the throat, in the sternum, in the spine, and pull the trigger."

You have a gun confused with a knife. Guns-even little bitty ones, are meant to allow you to keep your distance while putting a hole in something. Most people will never take the time to learn how to shoot a gun properly. The little guns are harder to shoot accurately, but if you practice they can amaze you.
 
But I have seen on youtube people hitting plates at 25 yards or so!

That is pretty impressive. I can hit pop cans most of the time at about 5-10 feet (2-3 yards) with my Mini. But hitting a plate at 25 yards is way past what I can do.

One other thing that helps steady a little. is to hold the gun with your weak side hand but then pull the trigger with your dominate hand. It looks funny with 2 hands on a 22lr mini revolver but it does help some.

end the end I dont think these guns are super accurate. Practice will help but you need to be realistic with what you expect.
 
I gave up on my .22lr NAA and got a Pug with a laser grip. Now aiming is a breeze as long as it is not too sunny outside. :) I could never do well with the .22LR unless the target was just a few feet in front of me. It was not worth practicing a lot with since I rarely carried it.
 
People actually shoot groups with their Minis? :eek:

Don't believe I've ever hit the paper plate more than 3 times at 5 yards with mu Mini Magnum. :o
 
Yep, just checked to make sure my memory and imagination weren't too mixed up yet.

Google "NAA mini 50 yards" - not groups, but a sheet metal plate

and "naa mini revolver mark stevens" for a palm size group at 7 yards.

- sorry I've got another program running that won't let me copy/paste otherwise I would link it for you.

Okay so my memory is a *little* fuzzy. Groups at 7 is not 25, you all can feel better about yourself now :D

Thanks for the advice. Lots of experimenting to do. In practicing for IDPA, versus fixing up an old Remington 11 shotgun, versus this, I don't know if I'll get around to this on the next range trip.
 
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I haven't figured out a hold and sight picture with my 22 Short Mini that doesn't hit almost a foot low at 5-7 yards. Doesn't matter, it's a lot of fun to shoot the tiny pop gun. Besides, any serious defensive use would most likely be at a distance that an attacker could read the name and caliber on the side of the frame!:eek:
 
Those darn little things are fun to shoot, but I have never seen any serious use for them. Even as a deep cover gun, they are awkward and hard to get into action, as well as being single action. For anything else, well they are fun to shoot.

Jim
 
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