N.R.A.'s Ads on Teams' Broadcasts Irk League

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http://www.nytimes.com/2000/09/24/sports/24NFLL.html

N.R.A.'s Ads on Teams' Broadcasts Irk League
By MIKE FREEMAN

Listeners to the Washington Redskins' radio broadcasts this season on the
flagship station WJFK-FM have heard a former Redskins great, defensive
lineman Dave Butz, speaking on behalf of the National Rifle Association.

"Who are the members of the N.R.A.?" Butz asks in one of the advertising
spots. "We come from all walks of life - we're police officers, engineers,
members of the armed forces - even ex- football players like me. In fact,
we're as diverse as America itself. But we all share a belief in the right
of responsible gun ownership. That's why I'm proud to be a member of the
N.R.A."

Some National Football League owners, general managers and other officials
are angered that the N.R.A. is advertising on three teams' radio broadcasts.

That bothers the league officials because the N.F.L. has had serious
public-relations disasters with the high-profile arrests of some players,
including Rae Carruth, the former Carolina Panther, who has been charged
with first-degree murder for allegedly masterminding the shooting death of
his pregnant girlfriend.

Guns and professional football do not mix, some league officials believe.

"It is almost comical," said one American Football Conference team owner,
who would speak only if he was not identified. "How can any team justify
this in light of what has happened to some of our players recently?"

According to its spokesman, the rifle association launched a radio
advertising campaign with three high-profile teams - the Redskins, the
Detroit Lions and the Philadelphia Eagles - to use the popularity of
professional football to help expand its membership.

"The N.R.A. is about a lot of things, such as gun safety, conservation and
police firearm training," said Bill Powers, an N.R.A. spokesman. "We want
people to know that, and we think the N.F.L. can help us spread our message.
The N.F.L. and the N.R.A. is a natural fit."

With the league attempting to deal with a rash of player violence off the
field, league officials ask whether it is appropriate for teams to associate
themselves with the rifle association.

Though the league cannot prevent players from legally purchasing firearms,
many teams privately tell players that firearms are more trouble than they
are worth.

Six team officials, speaking on condition of anonymity because they said
they feared upsetting the rifle association, agreed it was irresponsible to
allow the N.R.A. to associate itself with professional football.

Powers said the rifle association's radio campaign uses the voices of former
players like Bill Bergey, who played linebacker for the Eagles from 1974 to
1980, and Lem Barney, a defensive back with the Lions from 1967 to 1977.
According to Powers, the Redskins first approached the association about
doing the advertisement, and the association agreed. Then, he said, the
N.R.A. expanded the spots to Philadelphia and Detroit.

The radio stations pay rights fees to the individual teams so they can
broadcast the games. Then the station seeks advertisers to offset those and
other fees.

So while the teams and the rifle association do not deal with each other
directly, the relationship between teams, advertisers and the stations is
symbiotic; there is more than enough of a link to make some in the league
extremely uncomfortable.

Detroit games are broadcast on WXYT-AM with an audience of 600,000 to one
million, according to Bill Keenist, the Lions' vice president of
communications, broadcasting and news media. Keenist said the Lions did not
allow the station to take advertisements from casinos or exotic dance clubs.

He said the Lions did not see a problem with allowing advertisements from
the rifle association and had not received any complaints from fans, other
teams or the league.

The Eagles had no comment, and the Redskins did not return phone calls.

The league cannot prevent its teams from having the N.R.A. as a sponsor.

Powers said his organization would most likely purchase radio advertisements
in other N.F.L. cities and expand into other sports, such as baseball and
Nascar, under an umbrella called N.R.A. Sports.

"My hope is that teams realize this association is terrible for our sport,
and back away," one National Football Conference team general manager said.
 
Um, I think the NFL's problem has to do with teams hiring sociopaths, not with upstanding players owning guns. And what's with the comment that guns and football don't mix? Are they afraid that one of their lineman is going to shoot the opponent's quarterback and grab the ball? Sheesh.

Dick
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Monkeyleg, If the believe that, they've watched The Last Boy Scout to many times.

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But it's OK to advertise beer commercials, albeit funny, during any, and all, NFL games.

They also sell a helluva lot of alcohol at the games. I know, been there, done that.

How many of their patrons have left the field a little less than sober, I wonder?

Oh, but that's different, because there's money to be made in THAT enterprise.

I wonder when the team/stadium owner is going to get sued for allowing alcohol to be served to someone, then that someone goes out and kills someone else. No different than in a bar. The games would be a lot less profitable then.

I think it's time to send a little letter to the big beer companies, particularly Budweiser, and ask that they step up, identify, and have a talk with this unnamed spokesmouth for the NFL.

Wonder why the cretan requested to have his/her/it's name withheld? Wouldn't be because it suspected business reprisals for it's mouth action.
 
The NFL needs to worry a little more about cleaning its house with its own players rather than sniffing around this issue.

As Donny mentioned, alcohol isn't under the same scrutiny.

How about marriage? Dana Stubblefield of the 'skins was just arrested for teeing off on his wife. AGAIN.

Warren Moon and his wife had a LONG history of pounding the crap out of each other.

How many NFL players drive irresponsiblly? Didn't a KC Chief flip his car last year and kill either himself or his best friend? Perhaps auto dealers shouldn't advertise, either.

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>"My hope is that teams realize this association is terrible for our sport,
and back away," one National Football Conference team general manager said.[/quote]

Not willing to give their names ... perhaps because their statements are so inane?

These comments in opposition to the NRA ads reflect the exact reasons why the NRA should continue this advertising.

This reminds me of Wal-Mart's excuse that they pulled guns from display in Tampa because their was an elementary school nearby. So what? That is illogical.

Just like firearms in the hands of honest, decent people have nothing to do with the few NRA bullies who brutalize their own families. Perhaps some of those wives need some range time ...

The biggest mistake made by RKBA supporters is folding in the face of emotional rhetoric. Our better course, IMHO, is to return the favor with more emotional rhetoric - helping people understand that guns save lives, and honest people deserve the use of quality, safety rescue tools.

Regards from AZ
 
Sounds like a typical East Coast Liberal Media Loser eating his sour grapes.

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I've been wondering, how many criminals are NRA members... vs how many "professional" athletes are criminals...

Would be an interesting comparision.
 
The [un]willingness of these dweebs to be identified with their own statements tells legions about their ethics and their convictions. They're obviously nothing more than greedy, gutless, pandering cowards who deserve to have their families run down by a drunk, coked-up player after a game some evening. (Give me a minute to collect myself and I'll tell you how I really feel -). M2
 
Donny hit the nail on the head. I think a survey needs to be done to determine how many fans leave the game drunk and get into accidents. Let's take it further and see how many people leave football parties drunk and cause accidents as well. I mean we all know it's those beer commercials during football games that make people get in their car drunk and kill someone...right?

Could it be that the NFL thinks that commercials don't make responsible adults drink and drive?

How stupid, I mean we all know how NRA commercials make people want to go out and kill someone. :rolleyes:

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Monkeyleg:
Are they afraid that one of their lineman is going to shoot the opponent's quarterback and grab the ball? Sheesh.
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A whole new dimension to the sport. Give the middle linebacker a single shot 12 gauge, and he can use it to defend against passes. PULL !!! :)
 
Some sports franchises have been actively antigun IIRC as in the CCW referendum in MO.
Maybe in the Washington state one also.

Interesting that the pseudo-macho titans of professional sports who live in gated communities and with bodyguards don't like the common person having the means to protect themselves.

Perhaps, they fear the mob will become satiated with the bread and circuses approach of professional sports. Even Dennis Miller will not be able to save them. Then they might look to the corporate oppressors of the common folk. Thus, we should be unarmed.
 
If the NRA is paying for these radio spots, as I'm sure they are, then they are entitled to have them broadcast.
These nameless officials from the NFL can stuff it!
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WAGCEVP:

"It is almost comical," said one American Football Conference team owner,
who would speak only if he was not identified. "How can any team justify
this in light of what has happened to some of our players recently?"

With the league attempting to deal with a rash of player violence off the
field, league officials ask whether it is appropriate for teams to associate
themselves with the rifle association.
[/quote]

Two things. First, notice the use of the passive voice in the first paragraph, as if assault and battery, murder and DWI are things that just "happened" to these poor, unsuspecting gridiron warriors, instead of the wholly voluntary irresponsible actions they are.

Second, we should turn it around and ask if it's appropriate that the NRA should associate themselves with an organization of violence-prone sociopaths like the NFL. Not to disparage all players, of course. Also, I wonder what the arrest rate for the NFL is compared to the public at large?




[This message has been edited by Gopher a 45 (edited September 25, 2000).]
 
It really steams me to see how the connection, as a matter of course, is made between murders and assaults, and the NRA. As though the NRA is somehow partly responsible for those murders and assaults.

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