My james bond cc

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Someone was discussing their ideal CC gun something like a Tech 9. My CC is the James Bond Beretta 418 and a suede shoulder holster with a blue web shoulder rig. 418's are very compact and don't print on my tuxedo jacket or suit jacket depending on the occasion. It's not the calibur, but how you use it that counts.
 
I own a Tec-9 and have absolutely no idea how you would conceal it due to its size and weight plus that firearm isn't exactly known for being the most realiable either.
 
Well, if your 'job' was bodyguard for thugs and all you had to do was stand around all day, you could probably carry a machine pistol. I managed to conceal a sawed-off shotgun for giggles once (legal length, not out in public). It can be done, but it's just not practical.


Actually, I want one of those Bond Arms derringers if I have to wear a tux all day. Leave the security work to security :D.
 
Actually, I want one of those Bond Arms derringers if I have to wear a tux all day
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If i had a bond arms derringer, I'd be dressed like this:
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well originally he carried a beretta, but then his boss called him in and reissued him a ppk. something about lack of stopping power putting james in the hospital for a while
 
and besides, James Bond carry a PPK?
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You don't sound too sure of yourself dsa1115 - and rightly so as I assume that the op will return to set you straight - just a friendly reminder to look before you leap :cool:
 
Bond derringers?,,, No thank you,,,,,

Actually, I want one of those Bond Arms derringers if I have to wear a tux all day.
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Until you had to cock the thing in a hurry,,,
I was given one as a B-Day present a few years back.

It was impossible to cock that thing one handed,,,
And almost as hard to pull the trigger.

I took it back to the dealer thinking he had sold my lady a bad one,,,
All of the ones he had in the counter were just the same.

Your mileage might vary,,,
But I urge you to shoot one before you buy one,
 
In the beginning,,,

and that was the books,,,
Not the movies.

James Bond was reprimanded by M,,,
For carrying the unauthorized Beretta .25,,,
Instead of the duly authorized Walther PP? in .380

Sir James stated he was fine because he could hit where he aimed,,,
M told him to aim the bullet from the gun Her Majesty graciously provided for him.

Gawd but I wanted to be just like him when I was a kid,,,
I had all of the James Bond stuff mowing lawns could afford to me.

I had the trench coat,,,
I had the shoulder holster and pistol,,,
I even had the briefcase with the pop-out knife.

Open that briefcase incorrectly,,,
You got a face full of talcum powder.

And lets not forget the watch with the strangle-cord.

I used to wear all that great stuff to school,,,
Imagine if some kid did that now,,,
They would arrest his @$$.
 
In the novels, Bond originally carried a Beretta 418 in a shoulder rig. This changed because in the end of From Russia with Love the gun's suppressor got snagged in his holster and he wasn't able to draw it in time to keep Rosa Klebb from stabbing him with her poisoned shoe-dagger and spent several months in the hospital as a result. In the following novel, Doctor No, M forces Bond to turn in the Beretta and instead issues him both a Walther PPK in .32 ACP and a S&W Centennial Airweight revolver in .38 Special. Throughout the various novels, Bond carries a wide variety of handguns including the Walther P99, ASP 9mm, and even a Ruger Super Blackhawk that he keeps in his car (a Saab 900 Turbo in that particular novel).
 
Hello Webleymkv,,,

I bow to your expertise,,,

You've obviously read the novels more recently than I have my friend,,,
I believe I was still in the 8th grade when I read em last.

I do have vivid memories of that plastic pistol though,,,
It did say Beretta .25 on it somewhere.

I do remember him being chewed out,,,
And I will still wager a shiny new nickel that the line,,,
"the gun Her Majesty graciously provided for him" was in there somewhere.

But again, that memory is over 45 years old,,,
And I don't have the books anymore.

Ah yes,,,
Childhood memories,,,
Crystalline in their clarity,,,
Yet so often incorrect in their recall.

P.S. Were you the gentleman who turned me on to a website that had some used Webleys?
I almost purchased one but it went before I could scrounge the cash.
I would still like to have a working one to hang next to my French LeBel.
 
The Beretta to Walther switch is also seen in film (though mention of the S&W revolver was absent). In the beginning of the film Dr. No (which was the first film, but not the first novel) M forces 007 to trade in the Beretta for the Walther based on the advice of Major Boothroyd (more commonly known as Q). In the film, the reason for the changeover is that the Beretta had jammed on 007 and he subsequently spent six months in the hospital as a result (no further information is given). No mention is made in the film as to the model or caliber of the Beretta beyond Q's statement that it has no stopping power, though the Walther is specifically referred to as a 7.65mm (.32 ACP) and that it has "a delivery like a brick through a plate glass window," hardly an apt description of .32 ACP ballistics. Boothroyd also mentions that the PPK takes a Brausch silencer.

Ian Fleming was not particularly knowledgeable about firearms and several mistakes can be seen throughout his novels. The change to the PPK was done at the behest of one of Fleming's fans, Geoffery Boothroyd (hence the fictional quartermaster's name). Boothroyd wrote Fleming and complained about 007's choice in firearms calling the .25 Beretta a "lady's gun". Boothroyd originally suggested that 007 use a S&W Centennial Airweight .38 Snub, but Fleming felt that a semi-automatic would be more fitting for the character and asked Boothroyd what a suitable self-loader would be. Boothroyd then suggested the PPK.

The Beretta used in the novels is referred to as having a "skeleton grip" presumably meaning that the grip panels had been removed. Fleming's lack of firearms knowledge is particularly apparent in the book Dr. No as Bond is issued the S&W Centennial Airweight for use when danger is expected and concealment is not necessary. Fleming repeatedly refers to the J-Frame snubby as a "big gun" when it is anything but that.

P.S. Were you the gentleman who turned me on to a website that had some used Webleys?
I almost purchased one but it went before I could scrounge the cash.
I would still like to have a working one to hang next to my French LeBel.
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Alas, it wasn't me as I also did not find that website until all the Webleys were gone.
 
Actually, the .38 S&W was mentioned in the film "Dr. No". Bond was given a choice.

He chose the PPK, which was described as having "a delivery like a brick through a plate glass window."

Bond rejected the .38 as being "too powerful" (!!!).

Later, in "Live and Let Die", the Roger Moore Bond comes ashore at the hideout armed with a .44 Magnum, which he uses to kill some witch doctor guy.

Apparently, Bond overcame his dislike of guns that were "too powerful".

Personally, I think it was due more to the fact "Live and Let Die" was made in 1973...when the "Dirty Harry" effect was still a factor.
 
I would think that in 1961 the 32acp would have been considered "a brick through a plate glass window." But, then again, I'm little.

My ideal bond CCW? A Walther P99 in 9mm in a nice, beautiful leather shoulder holster with backstrap and two extra mags on the opposite side. I'm a youngen', Pierce was my bond (though Dalton is my favorite).
 
Actually, the .38 S&W was mentioned in the film "Dr. No". Bond was given a choice.
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I've seen Dr. No dozens, if not hundreds of times (one of my favorite movies as a kid, and we had it on video) and I'm positive that no mention is made of a S&W .38, at least not during the scene in M's office.

Quarrel, Bond's comrade who accompanies him to Crab Key, does carry a revolver, but it looks like a 4" barrel medium frame like a S&W Model 10 or Colt Police Positive rather than a small-frame snub.

The only specific mention of a S&W which I can remember is when Professor Dent tries to kill him. Dent enters a room and fires his silenced pistol six times into the bed in which he believes Bond to be asleep. He is then ordered to drop the gun by Bond, who is actually sitting behind the door and is briefly interrogated at the point of Bond's silenced PPK. At the end of his interrogation, Dent grabs his gun and attempts to shoot Bond only to find it empty. Bond then says "That's a Smith and Wesson, and you've had your six" before shooting Dent, killing him. That scene is actually a great example of a movie mistake because Dent's gun is actually a Colt 1911 rather than a S&W and it carries a seven shot magazine.

The scene I think you may be mixing up is one in Goldfinger in which Miss Galore (forum software won't let me post her first name:p) threatens Bond at the point of a large revolver while in an airplane. Bond replies that the gun is a "Smith and Wesson Forty-Five" and that the bullet would punch through him and the fuselage, causing the plane to crash.
 
Bond rejected the .38 as being "too powerful" (!!!).
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Things like that turned me off Bond movies.

Remember him saying, "That's a Smith & Wesson, and you've had your six", but it was a COLT .45 with a silencer!

Only the latest two, with Craig Daniel as Bond, have got me interesed. But then, they are more like Jason Bourne than the old Bond. Way much better.
 
Ah, Yes. Dalton. My brother and I both commented on the one great flaw in a Dalton flick. While in the holding cell it turns out that in the next cell is the main Mujahedin leader. Bond didn't know of him, let alone know him which he usually did - usually went to school with them - or Sandhurst - but at the very least he knew who the guy was...see the exchange between him and Barbabra Bach in "The Spy Who Loved Me"

And the guns! It still makes me smile to see Bond pull out his little .22 take-down Charter Arms and knock the helicopter out of the sky :)
 
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