My friend has a question about FTF in-state transfers

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chris in va

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She feels it's too easy for a questionable person to purchase a firearm in-state FTF without proof of a background check. She thinks it would be in the best interest of everybody that a background check be evaluated once a year and some form of permit be issued to allow firearm purchase.

This permit can be presented to the buyer and seller at purchase. This may not deter a criminal from purchasing a firearm but it would substantially reduce the possibility of guns getting in the wrong hands.

The VA Tech shooter at least went through a store and passed the NICS check (somehow) but how much easier would it have been for him to buy a gun FTF with no check at all.

Please don't flame, she wants good solid answers to the issue. These are her exact words as well, I'm just typing it for her.

BTW she's a good shot and is considering her CCL, just has some concerns.
 
The VA Tech shooter at least went through a store and passed the NICS check (somehow) but how much easier would it have been for him to buy a gun FTF with no check at all.
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Well, since there was no impediment to passing the background check at the dealer's, a FTF sale would have only been easier in the sense that the time taken to fill out the 4473 and make a phone call would have been saved.
 
Too Much Big Brother.......

Essentially she want's everyone who MAY buy a firearm FTF to have to carry around a note from our "Nanny" (The Governmnet) saying we'll behave. Turns it into too much of a "privilege" granted by the State rather than a "right" gauranteed by the second ammendment (as do most of the regulations, I know).

Serves no purpose other than to create employment in another government department to keep track of Law Abiding gun owners.

As far as the VA massacre......how many would have died if the guy chained the doors shut, then poured a 5 gallon jerry can full of kerosene on the floor and lit a match?
 
Since your friend used the Va Tech incident as an example the shooter followed all the rules of going thru a FFL. This permit she is suggesting follows the same rules so what good would it have done? Background checks are not free and if you increase the number of them to the number of gunowners and potential gunowners in the state then the fee will increase because the State Police will need a dedicated staff just to handle the permits. Now is she willing to pay this fee and go thru all the requirements every year from now on even though she don't plan to buy a gun every year?
 
I think that your friend already knows the answer.

"This may not deter a criminal from purchasing a firearm but it would substantially reduce the possibility of guns getting in the wrong hands."

She has already reasoned that the law might not work, but she wants to implement it anyway. To what end? We already have numerous laws that are designed to keep guns from "getting in the wrong hands." They seem to work about as well as all the laws that make certain drugs illegal.

Do laws ever prevent people from doing what they want, when they want? The answer is no. Only morals, mindset, training, up-bringing, conscience, and self-respect keep people from harming others. For some people, the fear of punishment is also a deterent, but I don't think violent criminals are worried about that. To some, it's a badge of honor to go to prison.

It sounds to me like your friend wants to help people be protected, to feel safe. That's very nice of her, but it's also a little naive. When we get right down to it, each of us is responsible for ourself. No one else has that responsibility or that requirement, including the police.

Your friend mentioned "the wrong hands." Who decides whose hands are right? If my protection is up to me, since the police and government aren't required to protect me, do I get to decide whose hands are the right hands? If the government gets to decide, what will stop them from deciding that only they have the right hands? Surely she doesn't want to limit guns to only the government.

You friend is on her way to a CCL. She thinks that she has the right, or duty, or necessity to protect herself. Do other people have those same rights, duties, and necessities?
 
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