My experience with shell casings and guns at school.........long

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bullseyekp

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One day my senior year in high school, 1997, I was walking down the hall in between classes and was greeted by the Asst. Principal and a police officer. The principal told me that I had left my car lights on so I headed out the door. Well, I had driven my dad's car to school that day and it didn't have a parking sticker on it so I knew our local police had already run the tags on it to find out whose it was. So, I was walking out to my car and sure enough, those two goons were trailing right behind about 20 feet. So I asked myself if I really needed that much help to turn my lights off. I think not.

When I got to the car, each of them proceeded to walk to opposite sides of my car. Then the principal asked what "these things" were on the little plastic grill at the bottom of the windshield. My dad shoots over the top of his car sometimes and about 20 .22 LR cases had taken up residence in the little slots. I told him what they were while he fiddled with them and while the officer scoped out the inside of the car. Of course, there were some of my dad's experimental .45 hollowpoints that had been shot into water bottles laying in the floorboard. I pulled a few out and started to explain how nicely mushroomed they were and how well they retained their weight after plowing through 8 inches of water. They weren't too interested for some reason and the principal asked me to give them to him. I told him my father wouldn't like that and that neither him nor the cop could confiscate my legal property. He agreed after a few objective words from me.

Then, very cautiously, the cop asked me, "You don't have a gun in this car do you?" I laughed. I laughed again. I let the copper check the trunk and he asked about a few other shooting supplies that were obviously foreign to him.

This is funny. There was a 3 liter coke bottle with antifreeze in it lying in the trunk under a shooting mat. He picked up the mat and jumped back and quickly asked "What is that?" :eek: I paused, slowly stuck my head in the trunk, and then told him it could be acid or some kind of radioactive waste but it was probably just antifreeze. Morons!! :rolleyes:

After they were done harrassing me, I called my father and a meeting between him and a few school officials ensued. This type of BS was common from the public school underling administrators during my senior year and it all began when a 6'5" 300 pound football coach assaulted me without instigation. That didn't go over to well either.

My children will go to private schools.
Period.

BTW, my freshman year in college I got permission from my prof and the security dept. to bring two guns to class to make a point in my persuasive speech on gun control. They were inspected by security and I was escorted to class by security personnel who did not make their presence known to the class so my little surprise would be unexpected. The surprise did have its inteneded affect on my classmates!! :D

Three years later, people I don't know still ask me if I was the guy who brought the guns to class for a speech. Then I get the chance to share a little bit about myself, guns, and RKBA!!

[This message has been edited by KP95OKC (edited May 22, 2000).]

[This message has been edited by KP95OKC (edited May 22, 2000).]
 
This kind of stupidity doesn't even surprise me anymore. FWIW, High School, contrary to what you've been told, doesn't do much for you in the "real world." You'll find, as I did, that those teachers and administrators who made threatening remarks to you probably couldn't get a job at McDonalds if they could no longer work as teachers. My principal threatened me at least 4 times and the only reason I made it through High School was he was afraid of my dad, who had once drove his Land Cruiser up on the front steps of the school just to piss him off. In a few years, after you have some real world experience under your belt, you'll run across him somewhere and he won't be able to look you in the eye. Then you'll recognize him for what he is, a bullying, pathetic loser

Don't sweat any of it.
 
Hello KP950KC: You should pull up that speech load it on TFL. I'm sure we would all enjoy hearing what you had to say. Especially at the point that you pulled out the gun. --plinker2--
 
When I was in middle school (late 80's), we had to make a musical instrument and bring it into class. I made a "pan flute" type thingy by taking a 8 (a scale) various empty shell casings, partially filling them with melted lead, and gluing them onto a piece of wood.

It worked wonderfully and I didn't get a second look. shrug.

-z
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by KP95OKC:

There was a 3 liter coke bottle with antifreeze in it lying in the trunk under a shooting mat. He picked up the mat and jumped back and quickly asked "What is that?"[/quote]
Call S.W.A.T! He has green stuff in the trunk!
 
When I was in Junior High, for art class we were drawing a collage. I brought in a 1:1 plastic working model of a Walther P38 (you could remove the mag and there were plastic spring loaded bullets and you could rack the slide and pull the trigger), a practice grenade. 2 .50 BMG shells, a few .30-06 shells, and some Bull Dog free fall type missles. The teacher had one question - Is it real? - all stuff of course was non-functional. There was no problem for the week or so I carried the stuff around in a paper sack. That was in the Mid 80's - man how times change.
 
In the early '70's several guys in my shop class brought their shotguns in to refinish the stocks. Many of us had firearms in the truck or car in the fall. (hunting) Most of the farm trucks had a single barrel shotgun in the gun rack. Different world.

Giz
 
I don't know if private schools are any better. I believe Spectre has a story about one of those.

Home schooling is what I plan to do. I have given tours to home schooled kids at different locations (movie theatre, Book store) and also to regular public and private school kids. I also drove school bus for 3 years. In my experiance home schooled kids ask more questions, they WANT to learn.

They are not just going thu hoops.

They also seem to have a higher level of courtesty imposed on them. The homeschool groups were the only groups that sent thank you letters.
 
Sheesh, in elementary school we had one kid bring in empty .45 ACP shells for show and tell. This was 1983 or so. How times have changed.

Justin

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Justin T. Huang, Esq.
late of Kennett Square, Pennsylvania
 
When I was in highschool, i used to keep a good supply of ammunition in my truck. I could count on at least once a month getting called out to the parking lot to let the drug dog handlers search my truck. Never got into any trouble, and it got me out of at least one class ;). I did have some railroad flares confiscated once. They gave them over to the Assistant Principal, who upon seein the "Warning: High Explosive" , or whatever,label, freaked out and called the Sheriffs Dept.'s Bomb squad. They sent an officer over, who when he saw what it was, picked it up, put it in his pocket, and walked out of the AP's office laughing. I got a real good tongue lashing about it the next day, but otherwise was not punished. Her biggest gripe was how humiliated she was to have the officer laugh at her. Well, I didn't tell her to call the police. She could have just called me. Today I would have certainly been expelled, at the very least.


Hey, I want my flares back!
 
I attended a parochial elementary school, where one had to wear a tie. I had a tie-tack I made from an (inert) .38 special round - teacher thought it was neat, so I made one for him. In high school, I did a project for one of my classes in "ballistics" and brought in a cartridge board, recovered bullets, even some gunpowder (which I - carefully - ignited to the delight of the class) and got nothing but interest and an "A" from the teacher. And this was Chicago in the early '70's! Sheesh - any kid who'd do that now in that place would probably be locked up until he's my current age. And ya know - things sure seemed to be a lot more peaceful in the schools back then.
 
Private schools can be worse! In middle school, I brought a Guns and Ammo magazine to read during lunch. One of the teachers saw the magazine and sent me to the office. Bastards took my magazine and gave me 2 hours detention for bringing "violent reading" material to school.
 
My younger brother was assaulted by a 240-ish male teacher at the small "Christian" school in Mobile, Al he attended. This same individual told my brother-in front of other schoolchildren- that he would kill my brother if he saw him on the street.

When I was 11 or so, I remember one session in particular where, after a particularly violent paddling, the principal/preacher pushed me at least 10 feet across the room -Wham!- into the sofa that was there. He demanded where I heard "that word" I had used (I had jokingly called a schoolmate a name). Well, I heard it from him...from the pulpit...of course.

At this same school several years later, I had a basketball hurled at the back of my head by the current principal/vice pastor, because he thought I said something under my breath. This man was 6'3", and regularly knocked smaller children off their feet with a volleyball when playing dodgeball...

If I ever have children, I will have notes sent to the school advising there will be no physical punishment of my child. If this is violated, I will come to the school and treat the offender as he so deserves-I won't break any bones, if he's lucky.
 
plinker2

I took two ATF-classified handguns to prove a point about fear of the unknown. I carried a 1911 in my waist behind my back under a shirt before class began and then used a Star PD stripped down frame to ask the class if that particular "handgun" intimidated them. They all shook their heads no and after a couple of seconds of silence I quickly drew the 1911 and racked the slide while facing a concrete wall and asked them if this one made them feel any different than the first one. There was a simultaneous gasp from everyone and a few chairs made some noise. Man, the look on some of their faces was priceless!! I then explained that both guns were harmless in their present conditions because I had taken the firing pin out. Made a few other points about inanimate objects and then went on. The point was well made and very relevant to the speech. I did tape it but the recording is not very good and recording it again for the computer would make it even worse.
 
I must be older than I thought. When I was in High School(public) in North Carolina the JROTC taught marksmanship on campus and the rifle team practiced out behind the building twice a week! One teacher complained but the principal was in the Army Reserve and ignored her. I carried a pocketknife in my pocket every day and even used it to disect my frog in Biology. We sometimes would bring field knifes in for a particular class or an overnight field trip. Not once did I cut anyone to ribbons or did we shoot anything but the targets. Times they are a changing.

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WFM
Life NRA, LLEA, Quail Unlimited,Ducks Unlimited
 
KP95,

I think I've recovered nicely from most it- just leaving me with a virulent distaste for those who feel the need to dominate and/or abuse others. Interesting to note those who are most motivated to change others are usually the furthest off, huh? I belatedly remember that when I respond to some postings from those who feel that, if I don't believe as they do, I'm wrong. :mad: I feel that what others believe is their right- why begrudge me (or anyone) my own peaceable beliefs?
 
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