MSNBC tonight

[K80Geoff]

Well I watched the whole program.

Now I know what it must have felt like to be a Jew in Nazi Germany.

Our side was not represented very well, every supposed pro gun guest acted like an anti except for one woman (from WAGC) on the panel.

The gun industry lobbyist sounded like a card carrying member of HCI.

The MMM rep told the same lie about 12 children a day dying etc.

Clinton was his usual...oh forget about it, I can't talk about him without using excesive profanity!

This program was as "balanced" as a flat tire!

I'm so PO'ed that I cannot even think straight. This program was two hours of anti RKBA propaganda.

I need a double dose of Zantac! Grrrrrrrr

I am convinced we will never get a fair shake from the media.

Geoff Ross

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It's the Supreme Court, Stupid!

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[Joseph]

The HCI guy got frantic about banning guns!! I mean, it was nuts!

We had a Second Amendment Sister there, who did a good job, but then the blond (!) bimbo from MMM just got indignant about 12 kids a day, and got cheers!!

Our grass roots person on the stage got booed. Where was Labgrade when we need him.

ummmmm

Maybe another glass of wine will help...

 

[jdthaddeus]

It started early for me here and I onl;y caught the last 10 minutes! Arg.


If anyone will send me a copy of this show as a gift, I will make a donation to the group of their choice (NRA? GOA?) as a nice gesture


I only caught the SAS and MMM reps.

It infuriated me that the MMM chick talked about 'building a bridge between the two sides' and coming to a compromise, and then she ends her speech by touting the false statistic that 12 chiuldren a day die from guns, implying heavily that it is from gun accidents!!! ARG! There will be no compromise as long as their side keeps LYING! Why didn't anyone call her out on that lie she stated?!

 

[K80Geoff]

For a transcript of slicks part of the show:

www.msnbc.com/news/394117.asp

Dont know how long this will stay up.

WARNING take antacid before reading!

Geoff Ross

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[Mr.X]

Was appaled by the nebulus answers by the Gun store guy,when Brokaw almost dropped that AR-15 with (a grenade launcher??)Also Mr. Ford....wasn't sure if he was anti? Mr. Paradis was ok though.....I just wished someone had brought up the fact that the Clinton admin. used extortion against S&W....the prez made it sound all voluntary....like S&W woke up one morning and decided to sign this thing.Was sad, that Mr. Wright who's wife was killed at Jonesboro Ark. was suing Remington. Like they were respondsible.

 

[Piggy]

The debate was somewhat level-headed (by mass media standards) until Mr. Wright began his speech about the teacher in Columbine who "gave her best shot" by courageously taking a bullet in her back to save the children in her class from slaughter. This was in response to the WAGC reps suggestion that if she had been in the school and armed, she would have had a shot at stopping the rampage.
From this point onward, the anti's poured on the hysterical emotionalism, during which time the cameramen were sure to get shots of soccer mom's with saddened faces shaking their heads in apparent despair.
The freak from MMM was a complete misfit. I would wager money that her mind is saturated with psychoactive medication to control her wild emotionalism. Prozac, Xanax, Codeine etc... I suspect this is the type of woman who needs the whole pharmacological kit and kaboodle just to maintain some semblence of emotional stability.

 

[KawKLR]

The Nazi Germany thing isn't that far off IMO. No I am not some "nut" living in a shack writing my own life philosophy, I'm just a normal Joe on the street.

But, the public is being bombarded with lies and mistruths(when they use careful wording that IMPLIES something else than the actual words mean). Criminals get weak sentencing, get cable tv if they do end up in prison, meanwhile our government is doing all it can to opress us more and more. It isn't just the gun issue either, consider the land closure executive order that the bastard ran up just recently. Good luck in visiting our nations countryside. And the public is buying into it lock stock and barrel. Senseless behavior by our leadership, and it is blindly followed by the masses. This is the exact same thing as Germany. I just don't know who has what agenda. I swear, it is the exact same thing as the cult leaders who convince their followers to commit mass suicide. That is what I see happening in the United States of America.

Oh, BTW, did anyone notice that Rather said that S&W "volunteered" that agreement? Anyone notice when Clinton corrected Rather regarding the agreement? Yes, the news people don't have their facts, surprise, surprise.

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[Battler]

I was quite shocked. I'm used to 99% bias in the media against private ownership of firearms.

But these guys were REALLY stacking it on, going all-out. I was pretty shocked and impressed at the level of bias and vitriol against private ownership of firearms the newspeople themselves were able to generate.

And even HCI have never put out so many lies in such a short period of time.


Battler.

 

[Byron]

It could have been a lot worse, especially since NRA was a no-show, along with GOA, et al. What's with that? Wayne Lapierre had a "scheduling conflict"? Gimme a break. If he didn't want to be there, send Baker, send somebody. Isn't this part of what we're paying these guys for?

I thought Brokaw did a decent job of trying to provide a little balance, especially since there was no effective pro-gun spokesperson on the panel. Providing balance should have been the job of our so-called representatives. If Brokaw hadn't brought it up, nobody would even have mentioned that NRA put money into Project Exile in Richmond.

So far, I draw these conclusions from watching this and similar forums, straw votes, and discussions:

(1) Sweeping new restrictive gun legislation has little support among the general public; they'd rather see parents and others held accountable under existing laws.
(2) Project Exile-type strict enforcement strategies get a lot of public support. This is a winning position, whoever takes it.
(3) Anything that is presented as an improved child safety device, or an improved background check system, including at gun shows, get overwhelming public support. Opposing these is a losing position, whoever takes it.

Byron