Some time back this thread came up on the revolver board http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=119588&highlight=gp100
Care to share your opinion on the subject?
Care to share your opinion on the subject?
Mr. Weigand, opinion please?
- Thread starter Sisco
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my name isn't Jack Weigand but...
I got a Wolff spring kit for my Security Six. The hammer spring was actually heavier than the factory spring and made the trigger pull worse, so I replaced the factory spring. The trigger return spring, however, was lighter, and did ever-so-slightly lighten the SA pull. I had zero trouble installing it, I found the dis/re-assembly of the trigger group quite simple compared to some others. I have had no functional problems as a result, nor do I see how such a thing could happen.
I got a Wolff spring kit for my Security Six. The hammer spring was actually heavier than the factory spring and made the trigger pull worse, so I replaced the factory spring. The trigger return spring, however, was lighter, and did ever-so-slightly lighten the SA pull. I had zero trouble installing it, I found the dis/re-assembly of the trigger group quite simple compared to some others. I have had no functional problems as a result, nor do I see how such a thing could happen.
Jack Weigand
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The issue
SK,
There is an issue here not known by many. The trigger return issue is a mechanical interference between the trigger and hammer. The reason it takes the heavier trigger return spring is that in some revolvers the hammer seats and the trigger comes to rest on it before resetting. If you were to push the trigger a little forward with your finger it resets. When you do this you will see the hammer move down ever so slightly. When you have the heavier spring installed it supplies the pressure you just applied with your finger. The remedy is to relieve the offending area on the hammer. Adding more clearance allows the trigger to return completely with the lighter spring.
I use the following springs on all GP revolvers.
10# hammer
8# Trigger return
To use these springs you need correctly adjusted headspace and end shake or you will have misfires. CCI primers should only be used when you want the gun to misfire, LOL!
OK I hope this is somewhat clear, it is easier to explain in person. Take one of my Pistolsmithing seminars and you can see it first hand.
God Bless
Jack Weigand
SK,
There is an issue here not known by many. The trigger return issue is a mechanical interference between the trigger and hammer. The reason it takes the heavier trigger return spring is that in some revolvers the hammer seats and the trigger comes to rest on it before resetting. If you were to push the trigger a little forward with your finger it resets. When you do this you will see the hammer move down ever so slightly. When you have the heavier spring installed it supplies the pressure you just applied with your finger. The remedy is to relieve the offending area on the hammer. Adding more clearance allows the trigger to return completely with the lighter spring.
I use the following springs on all GP revolvers.
10# hammer
8# Trigger return
To use these springs you need correctly adjusted headspace and end shake or you will have misfires. CCI primers should only be used when you want the gun to misfire, LOL!
OK I hope this is somewhat clear, it is easier to explain in person. Take one of my Pistolsmithing seminars and you can see it first hand.
God Bless
Jack Weigand
Jack Weigand
New member
SK
There is no merit to that statement. When modifying a firearm you must get to the root of the problem not just blame the parts that you have added. As an example the Ruger revolvers have this problem but the heavy spring overrides it to some degree. When you install the lighter spring it becomes obvious. Is it the springs problem or the firearm?
God Bless
Jack Weigand
There is no merit to that statement. When modifying a firearm you must get to the root of the problem not just blame the parts that you have added. As an example the Ruger revolvers have this problem but the heavy spring overrides it to some degree. When you install the lighter spring it becomes obvious. Is it the springs problem or the firearm?
God Bless
Jack Weigand
Jack Weigand
New member
mikey357
I would love to. In the past the revolver classes at Montgomery Community College in NC could not get the minimum students required to run a class. When this happens the schools loose interest in offering them again. If you are interested, or anyone else for that matter, feel free to email Wayne Bernauer at Montgomery.
bernauerw@mcc.montgomery.cc.nc.us
Wayne is the director of the Gunsmithing courses. He is also in charge of the NRA Summer Seminar Series. I would be happy to offer a class but Ron Power has first crack at it. Ron has taught a revolver class for the past 20 years for the NRA. I attended one of Ron's classes in the early 80s' and I attribute much of my success to Ron. You would be very happy with either Ron's class or mine. Ron actually got me the job at Montgomery.
Flood Wayne with requests and I am sure he will offer a class next year. Keep in mind Hamilton Bowen offers a Ruger class at Montgomery and there may still be some openings.
OK I hope that was all of some help.
God Bless
Jack Weigand
I would love to. In the past the revolver classes at Montgomery Community College in NC could not get the minimum students required to run a class. When this happens the schools loose interest in offering them again. If you are interested, or anyone else for that matter, feel free to email Wayne Bernauer at Montgomery.
bernauerw@mcc.montgomery.cc.nc.us
Wayne is the director of the Gunsmithing courses. He is also in charge of the NRA Summer Seminar Series. I would be happy to offer a class but Ron Power has first crack at it. Ron has taught a revolver class for the past 20 years for the NRA. I attended one of Ron's classes in the early 80s' and I attribute much of my success to Ron. You would be very happy with either Ron's class or mine. Ron actually got me the job at Montgomery.
Flood Wayne with requests and I am sure he will offer a class next year. Keep in mind Hamilton Bowen offers a Ruger class at Montgomery and there may still be some openings.
OK I hope that was all of some help.
God Bless
Jack Weigand
Jack, I have taken some of those summer gunsmithing courses at Montgomery Junior College, and they are FIRST CLASS. I urge any of you who like to tinker with your guns to choose and attend one of the NRA gunsmithing classes. You will learn a ton, associate with like-minded good people, and enjoy the whole experience.
Clemson
Clemson