I have a friend who is moving to Kalifornia next year. He owns a collection of several handguns, mostly without safeties, as well as a a few hi-cap mags. Can he bring them in to California, since he is the owner? If so, can he drive them into the state, assuming that all the states in between allow the transport of locked firearms?
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Moving handguns to Kalifornia
- Thread starter Teppo
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Moving to Calif:
http://caag.state.ca.us/firearms/ab991.htm
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE FIREARMS DIVISION
NEW
CALIFORNIA
RESIDENTS!
Effective January
1, 1998.
If you are a new
California resident
and you own a
handgun, you must
report it or dispose
of it within 60 days.
Effective January 1, 1998, any person who moves into California and who brings any
pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person is
considered to be a "Personal Handgun Importer" and is required to do one of the
following within 60 days:
Complete and submit a Report of Handgun Ownership form along
with $14.00 to the Department of Justice. A separate report form and
$14.00 fee is required for each handgun reported. Report of
Handgun Ownership forms can be obtained from California
Department of Motor Vehicles' offices, licensed firearms dealers, local
police and sheriff's departments, the California Department of Justice
Firearms Division at (916) 227-3703, and from the Online Forms
Page at this site.
Sell or transfer the handgun(s) to a California licensed firearms dealer
or to another individual using a California licensed firearms dealer to
conduct the transaction.
or
Sell or transfer the handgun(s) to a California police or sheriff's
department. Persons choosing this option should contact the law
enforcement agency for instructions prior to transporting the
handgun(s) to the agency.
Any person transporting handguns in California is required under California
law to transport those handguns unloaded and in a locked container other
than the glove compartment or utility compartment of a vehicle.
Please be aware that failure to comply with these mandated
handgun requirements could result in criminal prosecution
(Penal Code Section 12072(g)).[/quote]
Transporting firearms: http://caag.state.ca.us/firearms/travel.htm
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>DOJ FIREARMS DIVISION
GENERAL GUIDELINES FOR TRANSPORTING A HANDGUN IN CALIFORNIA
California Penal Code section 12025 does not prevent a
citizen of the United States over 18 years of age who is not within any
of the classes excepted from firearm possession and who resides or is
temporarily in California from transporting by motor vehicle any pistol,
revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person
if the firearm is unloaded and in a locked container.
The term "locked container" means a secure container which
is fully enclosed and locked by a padlock, key lock, combination
lock, or similar locking device. This includes the trunk of a motor
vehicle, but does not include the utility or glove compartment. For more
information, refer to California Penal Code Section 12026.1.
GENERAL GUIDELINES FOR TRANSPORTING A SHOTGUN OR RIFLE IN
CALIFORNIA
Nonconealable firearms (rifles and shotguns) are not generally
covered within the provisions of California Penal Code section 12025
and therefore are not required to be transported in a locked container.
However, as with any firearm, nonconcealable firearms must be unloaded
while they are being transported.
[/quote]
Calif. DOJ firearms main page: http://caag.state.ca.us/firearms/index.html
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"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes" RKBA!
http://caag.state.ca.us/firearms/ab991.htm
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE FIREARMS DIVISION
NEW
CALIFORNIA
RESIDENTS!
Effective January
1, 1998.
If you are a new
California resident
and you own a
handgun, you must
report it or dispose
of it within 60 days.
Effective January 1, 1998, any person who moves into California and who brings any
pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person is
considered to be a "Personal Handgun Importer" and is required to do one of the
following within 60 days:
Complete and submit a Report of Handgun Ownership form along
with $14.00 to the Department of Justice. A separate report form and
$14.00 fee is required for each handgun reported. Report of
Handgun Ownership forms can be obtained from California
Department of Motor Vehicles' offices, licensed firearms dealers, local
police and sheriff's departments, the California Department of Justice
Firearms Division at (916) 227-3703, and from the Online Forms
Page at this site.
Sell or transfer the handgun(s) to a California licensed firearms dealer
or to another individual using a California licensed firearms dealer to
conduct the transaction.
or
Sell or transfer the handgun(s) to a California police or sheriff's
department. Persons choosing this option should contact the law
enforcement agency for instructions prior to transporting the
handgun(s) to the agency.
Any person transporting handguns in California is required under California
law to transport those handguns unloaded and in a locked container other
than the glove compartment or utility compartment of a vehicle.
Please be aware that failure to comply with these mandated
handgun requirements could result in criminal prosecution
(Penal Code Section 12072(g)).[/quote]
Transporting firearms: http://caag.state.ca.us/firearms/travel.htm
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>DOJ FIREARMS DIVISION
GENERAL GUIDELINES FOR TRANSPORTING A HANDGUN IN CALIFORNIA
California Penal Code section 12025 does not prevent a
citizen of the United States over 18 years of age who is not within any
of the classes excepted from firearm possession and who resides or is
temporarily in California from transporting by motor vehicle any pistol,
revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person
if the firearm is unloaded and in a locked container.
The term "locked container" means a secure container which
is fully enclosed and locked by a padlock, key lock, combination
lock, or similar locking device. This includes the trunk of a motor
vehicle, but does not include the utility or glove compartment. For more
information, refer to California Penal Code Section 12026.1.
GENERAL GUIDELINES FOR TRANSPORTING A SHOTGUN OR RIFLE IN
CALIFORNIA
Nonconealable firearms (rifles and shotguns) are not generally
covered within the provisions of California Penal Code section 12025
and therefore are not required to be transported in a locked container.
However, as with any firearm, nonconcealable firearms must be unloaded
while they are being transported.
[/quote]
Calif. DOJ firearms main page: http://caag.state.ca.us/firearms/index.html
------------------
"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes" RKBA!
J
Jeff, CA
Guest
No way. It's none of Kalifonia's businees which guns this "importer" has.
Jeff:
The whole political climate in Northern California makes me think that this is mild compared to what is coming. How about being required to obtain expensive liability insurance in order to own a gun? You can expect to be required to take classes on a regular basis. Remember to register your assault weapons. Teppo, do you own an AR, or AK? Might think about selling those evil things before coming to California. We don't want you to bring them with you. In California, we realize that government knows what is best for us. They help us from cradle to grave. Oh yes, when we die, they confiscate much of our money and property. So, make sure that you go to heaven, because the politicians have hell all sewn up.
The whole political climate in Northern California makes me think that this is mild compared to what is coming. How about being required to obtain expensive liability insurance in order to own a gun? You can expect to be required to take classes on a regular basis. Remember to register your assault weapons. Teppo, do you own an AR, or AK? Might think about selling those evil things before coming to California. We don't want you to bring them with you. In California, we realize that government knows what is best for us. They help us from cradle to grave. Oh yes, when we die, they confiscate much of our money and property. So, make sure that you go to heaven, because the politicians have hell all sewn up.
Run Away!
Do not move to Kalifornia. Unless of course you want to challenge the constitutionality of the law.
To this layman, it redefines the unregulable transport of private goods into a sort of pseudo-commerce then presumes to regulate it, except that this commerce is interstate the regulation of which is reserved to the Fedreal Government by the Constitution.
Any competent opinions out there?
Bentley
Do not move to Kalifornia. Unless of course you want to challenge the constitutionality of the law.
To this layman, it redefines the unregulable transport of private goods into a sort of pseudo-commerce then presumes to regulate it, except that this commerce is interstate the regulation of which is reserved to the Fedreal Government by the Constitution.
Any competent opinions out there?
Bentley
William R. Wilburn
New member
California required that any vehicles brought into the state by new residents pay $300 because of smog restrictions (a kind of "Indulgences" fee dispensed by the God Enviro). Last year the state was taken to court over the fee and the fees were declared unconstitutional.
The Personal Handgun Importer law and the $14.00 fee seems to fall in the same category. Any legal opinions? Maybe the attorney who handled the vehicle case would be interested in another case along similar lines. I'd sure like to start taking back our rights. This may be a good place to start. Feedback please.
-William
The Personal Handgun Importer law and the $14.00 fee seems to fall in the same category. Any legal opinions? Maybe the attorney who handled the vehicle case would be interested in another case along similar lines. I'd sure like to start taking back our rights. This may be a good place to start. Feedback please.
-William
J
Jeff, CA
Guest
I'd move out of Kalifornia in a heartbeat if it didn't mean having to drive 500 miles to work every day.
Be aware that you are moving into a full blown communistnazi police state. The Constitution of The U.S. does not apply there. The Marxist Socialists control virtually everything in Kalifornia and it is only going to get worse.
I lived in Los Angeles for 35 years, and there is not enough money in the world to convince me to move back.
Kalifonia is a gigantic time bomb, just waiting for the big explosion. J.B.
I lived in Los Angeles for 35 years, and there is not enough money in the world to convince me to move back.
Kalifonia is a gigantic time bomb, just waiting for the big explosion. J.B.