Most common mistake I see shooters make.

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HoustonBob

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Today at the range there was a shooter I over heard during a cease fire. He said he was tearing his hair out trying to get his rifle to shoot properly. He had chased down everything he could think of - torquing and lock tighting all the screws etc, and he didn't know what was wrong. He was on the verge of sending his rifle back to the factory. He had a Ruger Precision Rifle chambered in .308, and he was shooting Federal Gold Medal Match out of it. Now an RPR ought to love Gold Medal Match - the crazy in love way I was with that beautiful singer I knew back in the 80's - so there was definitely something wrong.

I said "May I make a suggestion?" He said "Sure." "Try putting a sandbag underneath your bipod. Bipods are meant to be used in dirt - not on something hard like a shooting table, and a sandbag will simulate what it wants." He looked at me doubtfully - "I'm leaning into that bipod and the rubber feet ought to hold that wood pretty well - I don't think that will make any difference." I said "Humor me, what have you got to lose?" He said "That's true, I'm at my wits end."

The next cease fire he walked up to my bench and stuck out his hand: "Man did you nail that. That rifle started shooting clover leafs as soon as I put it on that sand bag."

The problem is that a bipod's feet will hop around like a June bug with a hot foot on something hard like a shooting table or the tail gate of a pickup truck. Every recoil will be different and that will send the bullets everywhere except where you want them to go.

I see everyone, even very experienced shooters, making that mistake every time I go to the range.
 
My suggestions

Hi,
Good suggestions by fellow members.Yes if you put some bags on rifle stand and hold your breath while shooting then you can get good result .
Thank you
 
Can you imagine the amount of stuff that gets returned to the manufacturers for supposedly needed repairs, due to the ignorance of the user?
People will spend all kinds of money on gear, but won't go to a shooting school to actually learn how to use it.
Just a day at an inexpensive Appleseed event would do.
 
HoustonBob, you're spot on with this advice. I've been a shooting competitor for many, many years and found this out back when bipods first became popular. They just aren't made for using on a hard surface. Good advice and thanks for bringing it up.
 
@Houstonbob

Thank you for suggesting that, makes perfect sense to me and makes me wonder if that's the problem with one of my 308's I was doing load development on. Good on you for noticing someone struggling and giving aid!
 
Accuracy depends on a rigid system . With bipods bouncing that introduces a big non-rigid element . Either lock it down or absorb the movement .Sand bags absorb movement well !
 
Great that you took the time to help someone out. I was having difficulty with my new Savage .308 and "Hank" took a little time with the rifle and fixed the problem for me in less than a minute. The shop where I bought that rifle couldn't be bothered.
 
g.willikers said:
Can you imagine the amount of stuff that gets returned to the manufacturers for supposedly needed repairs, due to the ignorance of the user?
People will spend all kinds of money on gear, but won't go to a shooting school to actually learn how to use it.
Just a day at an inexpensive Appleseed event would do.
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Well said. It's shocking how much people will invest in the hardware thinking all the most expensive gear will turn them into a precision marksman, and not spend a dime on training to learn proper shooting techniques. Kinda like drag racers will tell you racing is 10% car, 90% driver. Usually, in my experience, a vast majority of poor marksmanship is due to the tool behind the trigger, haha!

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It surprise's me that there are so many people that didn't know that! I think a problem is so many people go out and get the latest and greatest with no clue how to use it other than bad advice on the internet! Imagine being out on the side ot a hill getting ready to shoot and propping the fore end up on a rock! There are a bunch of guy's on every site I've ever visited that have their ducks in a row but there's a lot more that are clueless!
 
What's truly surprising is the number excellent groups am getting from multiple rifles using a bipod on heavy wooden shooting bench. Including RPR in 308 and 6.5 cm.

What's truly amazing is number of people who jump on a bandwagon, without the knowledge/experience.
 
I'm not much of a rifleman but what surprises me the most about this conversation (and what I see at the range...) is how many people use these bipods.

I took one on a prairie dog hunt once and I only used it to stand the rifle all pretty when I was setting up or tearing down at a location. To me it was of no use, just slightly more bulk.

I suppose I could envision scenarios where having a bipod would be advantageous, but honestly I would prefer a better improvised rest.

But like I said, I'm not a rifleman. I'm a handgun guy.
 
Rifles come in many differing actions and purposes. Their are hunting, target, competition and undoubtedly numerous other purposes for rifles. Am no exspurt, but some rifles are meant to be gripped at the fore end. If you sight them in like a heavy target rifle, their poi may significantly change when you take them hunting. Some don't well with for end resting on sand bags.

Heavy target rifles can be easier to shoot off a bipod, their weight alone can pre load the bipod. There are also numerous differing bipods. Although haven't hunted in some time, none of my hunting rifles have bipods.

Bipods can offer some advantages, like quickly adjusting front height, with out carrying around more bags.
 
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