So I think I found a fix but I ran into some issues with my mossberg patriot and was curious to see if anyone else had these issues.
First of all, the gun has not been accurate or consistent. At 100yds the best it has been able to do is 1.16in with factory match ammo. With regular hunting ammo it is about 1.5-2in at 100yds. however with that said that is the exception to the rule and most groups of 4-5rnds would have 2 -3 filers.
Fist issue I ran into was the stock screws were no tight, front was finger tight and no torque specs in the manual. I contacted mossberg and they stated 25in lb. so I torqued it down and the bolt would not go back in. the rear action screw was protruding into the receiver just a little. A few passes with a fine file fixed the problem. I took it back out, group results were the same.
So I decided to bed the stock. in doing so I cleaned up the action bolts and removed the red lock-tite material that was on the threads. I thought this was off as, based on its placement it was not far enough up to engage the threads. I bedded the stock. It was a bit tricky based on their floating mag well but I believe I got an ok bedding job done.
I went to reassemble the gun and it felt like there was a lot more stress on the screws when torqued down like it was crushing the wood or plastic trigger guard. upon trying to insert the bolt it would not go in. I looked in the receiver the the rear action screw was protruding by about 1/8in. upon taking the trigger guard apart it had compressed the wood under the trigger guard, but not by enough to make that much difference.
My best guess if the lock tite was acting a stop to keep the action screws from the treading in too far. However if this is the case one cannot accurately torque the action into the stock. The front action screw also threads into the bottom of the receiver but is stopped by the barrel threading and does not have a lot of room to thread into the receiver. so I have no idea if the 25in lb is coming from the threads or it bottoming out in the hole.
my current plan involves building stand offs. the action screws are 1/4-28. I ordered some stainless bolts and couplers. I plan to make short screws to thread into the couplers and attach those to the action. then cut the couplers down to allow enough space to properly thread and torque the action screws while not bottoming out in or on the coupler
also while bedding the action. I found the factory bedding for the recoil lug to be, as near as I can tell, hot glue. It was slightly yellow and flexible when I pried it out. it is nor bedded properly
Also the factory bedding of the action relies on it being torqued against the floating mag well. so not exactly and ideal bedding for precision.
I am no engineer or machinist but a lot of this is really seeming poorly thought out, at best, to put it nicely. I am trying really hard not to use a LOT of bad words.
First of all, the gun has not been accurate or consistent. At 100yds the best it has been able to do is 1.16in with factory match ammo. With regular hunting ammo it is about 1.5-2in at 100yds. however with that said that is the exception to the rule and most groups of 4-5rnds would have 2 -3 filers.
Fist issue I ran into was the stock screws were no tight, front was finger tight and no torque specs in the manual. I contacted mossberg and they stated 25in lb. so I torqued it down and the bolt would not go back in. the rear action screw was protruding into the receiver just a little. A few passes with a fine file fixed the problem. I took it back out, group results were the same.
So I decided to bed the stock. in doing so I cleaned up the action bolts and removed the red lock-tite material that was on the threads. I thought this was off as, based on its placement it was not far enough up to engage the threads. I bedded the stock. It was a bit tricky based on their floating mag well but I believe I got an ok bedding job done.
I went to reassemble the gun and it felt like there was a lot more stress on the screws when torqued down like it was crushing the wood or plastic trigger guard. upon trying to insert the bolt it would not go in. I looked in the receiver the the rear action screw was protruding by about 1/8in. upon taking the trigger guard apart it had compressed the wood under the trigger guard, but not by enough to make that much difference.
My best guess if the lock tite was acting a stop to keep the action screws from the treading in too far. However if this is the case one cannot accurately torque the action into the stock. The front action screw also threads into the bottom of the receiver but is stopped by the barrel threading and does not have a lot of room to thread into the receiver. so I have no idea if the 25in lb is coming from the threads or it bottoming out in the hole.
my current plan involves building stand offs. the action screws are 1/4-28. I ordered some stainless bolts and couplers. I plan to make short screws to thread into the couplers and attach those to the action. then cut the couplers down to allow enough space to properly thread and torque the action screws while not bottoming out in or on the coupler
also while bedding the action. I found the factory bedding for the recoil lug to be, as near as I can tell, hot glue. It was slightly yellow and flexible when I pried it out. it is nor bedded properly
Also the factory bedding of the action relies on it being torqued against the floating mag well. so not exactly and ideal bedding for precision.
I am no engineer or machinist but a lot of this is really seeming poorly thought out, at best, to put it nicely. I am trying really hard not to use a LOT of bad words.