Mossberg MMR?

DougU

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My new G&A has a rather extensive write up by Metcalf on the new Mossberg MMR (AR's). What is everyone thingking about these? I am intrigued as I have been looking at an AR style for predominately varmint hunting.

Before I hear from the wanna be commandos or the chart chasers, I am not looking for a SHTF gun to mount every accessory known to man on. I also have no immediate plans to be an operative so save the comments about chrome lined barrels, dustcovers, mil-spec this and that, etc.

Does anyone have any input on these rifles?
 
Based on the specs (or lack thereof) they are another bargain basement AR

People who like Mossberg will buy them, and they will probably be ok for occasional use/plinking, but you will not see anyone who depends on their AR for work/duty/serious round count with one.
I Dont depend on mine, but I like to shoot alot, and therefore need a reliable, durable rifle.

I guess it depends how much you want to shoot. For $900 you could have a rifle that will last a lifetime and never hiccup. Think of it as one less case of ammo.
If it takes you 4 years to go through 1k rounds then the MMR will be fine.

I would buy the S&W M&P15 Sport if I was on a $600 budget

All that being said I think its good that another major firearms manufacturer is entering the AR world.
 
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Saddlerocker, I'm curious why you say that no one who depends on it for work/duty/round count will be interested in it. I've staked my life on a 590 and I'm still here. My experience with Mossbergs is limited to the 590, but that is one tough piece of black iron.

I do not know anything about the Mossberg line of rifles. Is there some problem with their general reliability?

Bud's lists the basic in black .308 at $951.
 
IKE,
Their Shotguns are great, no doubt.

But there are certain things that make an AR reliable.
These things are often referred to as "mil-spec" or adherence to the "TDP". While those are just words, the processes and materials behind them do matter.
The really important things are in the upper and the BCG.

BCG:
MPI and HPT tested
Shot peened bolt
Material used in the bolt (Carpenter Steel)
"Full Auto" carrier (Shrouded firing pin/heavier)
Chrome lined carrier and gas key
Gas key staking
grade 8 fasteners on the key
Extractor spring and black insert

BARREL:
MPI and HPT tested
The barrel should be chrome lined (withstands heat, last longer, easy to maintain, wont gouge)
Barrel steel (4140 vs 4150 vs 11595E Chromoly vanadium)
A REAL 5.56 chamber
Proper M4 Feed ramps in the barrel extension and receiver
1:7" twist (while I personally dont think 1:7 is needed, I wasnt able to buy an "Up To Spec" rifle with anything but 1:7")

Now since Mossberg doesnt list the specs, we cant know for sure until some people buy them.
But I know that all these things are standard on a quality rifle, and the lower end guns usually dont have ANY of the things listed above.
Thats alot of stuff that contributes to reliability and performance and can be had at not much more than a lower "tier" rifle.
Just my opinion

Buds has the .223 listed at $630 (.308 are always more expensive)
 
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Saddle rocker makes some valid points, if not somewhat overated and misunderstood points. MIL-SPEC does not mean that the parts are superior, only that they meet the militarys minimum to qualify for contract consideration. Many items that are MIL-SPEC are not always beneficial depending on the rifles purpose. I thought I was clear in my OP about this being a hunting tool and not a SHTF weapon or one I was going back into service with. Personally, if I was going back to active duty in any of the hostile areas we seem to find popping up everywhere, I would pick an AK over an AR everyday.

I asked for a rifle to be used mostly for varmint hunting in case anyone missed that.

Oh, thanks for the Buds price. I am going to have to check them out.
 
Love my Mossberg 930 SPX, love Mossberg... and hey I love ARs, love my Bushmaster AR.

Would love to have a Mossberg AR if and only if I had lots and lots of money.. but failing that there are better things to buy from Mossberg and better ARs to buy if you need/want an AR.

So I'll pass but I wish em lots of luck.
 
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