Mossberg 930 vs 1100
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Stevie-Ray
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I really love my 930 SPX. Sure I'd love to have a 11-87, but don't wish to sell a bunch of other guns to get it.
I think the 930 is simply the best deal on the market.
I think the 930 is simply the best deal on the market..300 Weatherby Mag
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The Beretta 3901 is the best deal by a long shot....
Rugerismisticness
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I don't like Mossbergs quality (but they are designed as beginner guns), but the action is much better than either the 391s or the 1100s. It's the same action on the SX1s essentially, the recoil is tame, it really doesn't get terribly dirty, and it's very reliable. I was really hoping that Mossberg, with the pickup of Flanigun, would come out with a high quality sporting version of the 930.
Yeah, that beginner gun remark was either an over the top insult or from someone who has little knowledge of the subject matter at hand...
There is nothing "beginner gun" about the Mossberg Brand.
They have a few youth guns though.
The Mossberg brand has always been intended to be affordable.
So we have an american company making their products in america and able to meet a "price point".
Spartan? Often.
Utilitarian? NEARLY ALWAYS!!!
I am a loyal mossberg consumer for many reasons and price is not the most important to me.
There are many bonuses to their guns for me.
But the fact that they are still the same ol' company and not one of MANY absorbed by a "holdings firm"... Some of the mossberg lineage is still working there.
Brent
There is nothing "beginner gun" about the Mossberg Brand.
They have a few youth guns though.
The Mossberg brand has always been intended to be affordable.
So we have an american company making their products in america and able to meet a "price point".
Spartan? Often.
Utilitarian? NEARLY ALWAYS!!!
I am a loyal mossberg consumer for many reasons and price is not the most important to me.
There are many bonuses to their guns for me.
But the fact that they are still the same ol' company and not one of MANY absorbed by a "holdings firm"... Some of the mossberg lineage is still working there.
Brent
It means everytime a new shooter comes on here and asks advice for what gun to buy, everyone chimes in and says buy a 12 gauge pump, but not a Remington express, but Mossbergs are OK. They are inexpensive, but dependable. That makes Mossbergs a good beginners gun. Just because it's a good beginner's gun doesn't mean it can't good for other things as well. Mark
How about almost everyone. Jeez! I get really tired of people that get on forums just to start an argument. It is a great source of information for shooters, new and old. If you don't have anything better to do than to try and pick apart another poster, just to argue, you must be having a terrible Christmas, and probably a terrible life. Go shoot, or kick your dog, or maybe something useful. Merry Christmas. Mark
PS I own dozens of shotguns and own one Mossberg, a 500 SuperBantam, a great beginner's gun. I use it whan I teach at the youth shoots. I shoot trap, skeet, sporting clays, and am a range officer at our club. I have yet to see any serious shooter at any of these sports shooting a Mossberg. A few kids in 4H and casual hunters that come to shoot a few clays show up with them. Mossberg makes a good utility gun, but it doesn't rate as a high end gun. That's just the facts.
PS I own dozens of shotguns and own one Mossberg, a 500 SuperBantam, a great beginner's gun. I use it whan I teach at the youth shoots. I shoot trap, skeet, sporting clays, and am a range officer at our club. I have yet to see any serious shooter at any of these sports shooting a Mossberg. A few kids in 4H and casual hunters that come to shoot a few clays show up with them. Mossberg makes a good utility gun, but it doesn't rate as a high end gun. That's just the facts.
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oregunner: "….It means everytime a new shooter comes on here…. They are inexpensive, but dependable. That makes Mossbergs a good beginners gun. Just because it's a good beginner's gun doesn't mean it can't good for other things as well.…"
I think that answers my question. Thanks!
I think that answers my question. Thanks!
johnwilliamson062
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I had an 11-87. I sold it and bought a 930(at a loss). I never looked back.
One thing that got me was I REALLY wanted to have one semi-auto shotgun that was pretty versatile with a barrel change. The 11-87 barrels arr TWICE the price of the 930 barrels. A cantiliverd rifled 11-87 barrel is almost as much as the 930. By the time I get to 3-4 barrels the price difference is HUGE.
There are a lot more used 11-87 barrels out there, but there isn't a HUGE selection and they are still as expensive as the new Mossbergs.
One thing that got me was I REALLY wanted to have one semi-auto shotgun that was pretty versatile with a barrel change. The 11-87 barrels arr TWICE the price of the 930 barrels. A cantiliverd rifled 11-87 barrel is almost as much as the 930. By the time I get to 3-4 barrels the price difference is HUGE.
There are a lot more used 11-87 barrels out there, but there isn't a HUGE selection and they are still as expensive as the new Mossbergs.
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Rugerismisticness
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That is exactly my point, they are beginner guns! They are utilitarian, no frills, lower price range (and be honest, the fit/finish isn't there) guns that most people can afford. Whenever someone is looking for their first auto, I recommend the 930. It's simple, good design, lower recoiling, reliable, and durable. It isn't about to take home any shooting trophies, plain as that.
Think about it, would you rather a 391 Urika Gold Sporting or a 930 field model as a general purpose gun that should last you a lifetime? Maybe you'll better understand the term beginner gun as I intend to use it (in a way that doesn't bash the 930, but certainly puts it in it's rightful catigory).
They are even moreso beginner guns to those on the clays range, lack of adjustment, bulk, and utilitarian aims put them in the beginner catigory. As stated, the 930 has potential. If Mossberg would jump in the game and ramp up the quality of the 930 and make some additions, they would beat the heck out of the 391 in my opinion.
Think about it, would you rather a 391 Urika Gold Sporting or a 930 field model as a general purpose gun that should last you a lifetime? Maybe you'll better understand the term beginner gun as I intend to use it (in a way that doesn't bash the 930, but certainly puts it in it's rightful catigory).
They are even moreso beginner guns to those on the clays range, lack of adjustment, bulk, and utilitarian aims put them in the beginner catigory. As stated, the 930 has potential. If Mossberg would jump in the game and ramp up the quality of the 930 and make some additions, they would beat the heck out of the 391 in my opinion.
A beginners gun is an inexpensive gun of moderarte quality. They usually shoot just as well as better guns when new. But don't hold up near as well in the long term.
Many beginners start with a gun such as the Mossberg. If they discover that they don't really like the shooting sports enough to invest in a better gun, they haven't lost a lot of money. If they find they truly like shooting they will always move on to something a lot better.
Many beginners start with a gun such as the Mossberg. If they discover that they don't really like the shooting sports enough to invest in a better gun, they haven't lost a lot of money. If they find they truly like shooting they will always move on to something a lot better.
The fit and finish on my 20+ year old m-500 beginner gun is still far better than the best remington express...
The chamber came from the factory with the mirror finish that has never hung a hull even when 10 years out of cleaning.
The polished bluing is still there and not all rusty.
The metal follower in the mag tube is factory and still smooth as a baby's bottom too.
The express costs more than a m-500...
IMHO, the remintons are just higher priced units aimed at the same audience...
So, the remington in my opinion, is just a higher priced BEGINNER'S GUN!!!
The wingmaster is far from a "fine gentleman's arm"... None of their autoloading shotguns seem to be any better than a 930 field... which costs less in American Walnut than most other entry level auto loaders wearing junk tupperware plastic furniture.
The 930 is now the arm promoted by a professional comp. shooter...
Sure he is being paid etc but I am sure his reputation as a shooter is considered when choosing what to shoot...
I never heard of him considering the Excell auto loader imported under some brand or other...
Brent
The chamber came from the factory with the mirror finish that has never hung a hull even when 10 years out of cleaning.
The polished bluing is still there and not all rusty.
The metal follower in the mag tube is factory and still smooth as a baby's bottom too.
The express costs more than a m-500...
IMHO, the remintons are just higher priced units aimed at the same audience...
So, the remington in my opinion, is just a higher priced BEGINNER'S GUN!!!
The wingmaster is far from a "fine gentleman's arm"... None of their autoloading shotguns seem to be any better than a 930 field... which costs less in American Walnut than most other entry level auto loaders wearing junk tupperware plastic furniture.
The 930 is now the arm promoted by a professional comp. shooter...
Sure he is being paid etc but I am sure his reputation as a shooter is considered when choosing what to shoot...
I never heard of him considering the Excell auto loader imported under some brand or other...
Brent
Let me add... I feel it is absolutely silly to consider a gun NEVER INTENDED for the clay sports to be a beginner gun since a few who consider entering the clay sports games tried it out for a round or 2...
Since this is the shotgun section of TFL and not the competition shotgun sports section of TFL, if you lump the M-500 as a beginner gun due to this, than you are showing how well the blinders on your halter are working...
A beginner gun could be a single shot of any price point gun maker...
If cheap is what makes it for beginners, I guess I ought to suggest the $120 dollar .410 for clay sports?
Far more to this stuff than dirt birds and fine arms...
If you want to compete FOR REAL with your "fancy" gun... against me and my beginner gun, you will leave with tears in your eyes... Not for my prowess but for all the dents, dings, scratches and gouges in your gun.
Will park on the pasture and head into the woods... there are 3 barbed wire fences you have to lean your gun as we cross.
Shortly after that we will wade the nipple deep beaver pond and after 20 yards of knee deep muck, we will arrive at the starting point...
We can score on squirrels, rabbits and hogs killed... On the tailgate, I will inspect my m-500 so I know which scratches are new and can be attributed to this trip in the woods and the stories later in life from it.
Brent
Since this is the shotgun section of TFL and not the competition shotgun sports section of TFL, if you lump the M-500 as a beginner gun due to this, than you are showing how well the blinders on your halter are working...
A beginner gun could be a single shot of any price point gun maker...
If cheap is what makes it for beginners, I guess I ought to suggest the $120 dollar .410 for clay sports?
Far more to this stuff than dirt birds and fine arms...
If you want to compete FOR REAL with your "fancy" gun... against me and my beginner gun, you will leave with tears in your eyes... Not for my prowess but for all the dents, dings, scratches and gouges in your gun.
Will park on the pasture and head into the woods... there are 3 barbed wire fences you have to lean your gun as we cross.
Shortly after that we will wade the nipple deep beaver pond and after 20 yards of knee deep muck, we will arrive at the starting point...
We can score on squirrels, rabbits and hogs killed... On the tailgate, I will inspect my m-500 so I know which scratches are new and can be attributed to this trip in the woods and the stories later in life from it.
Brent