Mosin Nagant Sport Project(pt,1)

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okay. I am not one to wanna dump a ton of money into a rifle that, 1st. I like as it is and 2nd. which my be of value some day.

I have a Finnish VKT M39 mosin. I would never want to chop one of these up since it is a particularly rare and sought after model. unfortunately, I got this rifle in fantastic condition, but NO stock. I have hunted for the better part of a year for a finnish stock and the ones I have found were all upwards of 500$. yeah right...so since that's not going to happen, and a regular 91/30 won't do the value any good, i'm going to make it enjoyable to shoot



fisrt of all, this thing is actually VERY accurate, they come with a longer tighter barrel than a reg 91/30 and it shows. but I hat the irons and the rear sight is so strange on these, but I do like the bladed front sight. bt regardless, I wanna scope. the rear sight doesn't work the same on the finnish, so brass stacker or any of the rear leaf sights were out of the question, plus I didn't wanna scout scope. so I tapped the receiver against my etter judgement. the mount I got was such a piece of junk(ebay), I should have been a much easier project

firs off measure and figure out where you want it.


then figure out the threads and the corresponding drill bit to go with the tap

 
then ran a couple tests on aluminum blocks

fit is good
heres the fisrt hle, cafeful not to go too deep.

okay, so tapped that hole, then when try to put on the mount.....the screws do not even fit through the mounting holes...!!!
so had to drill out the wholes biger

then to mount....well, the screws aren't long enough to get to the receiver!!!! it wnt work on my HEX althought clearly stated it was for both round and hex recievers. so had to mill out the tops of the holes so screws would go deeper. could of just found longer screws, but it had plently of metal to work with

after
 
so after that debacle I had to re align everything and get it all clamped in again


but the end result was a nice super tght mount with exact clearance for the bent bolt. all-in-ll, worth the 20$'
btw...I don't have the bolt closed because the chamber is still full of metal shavings

FIN



next step is finding an nicer laminate stock, doing a target crown and adding a flush brake on the lathe


thanks
 
i love the picture details, very good quality :eek:

and stock wise you should think on how your planning to shoot it :)

if you plan to hunt a boyds featherweight is a good stock, what i went with, but the other stocks are good, and you can NOW get a really fancy one from boyds


The only thing I'd recommend in the laminate series stocks is to do the RSI bedding pillars, wont be to much hassle with a drill, and it sets the stock to be "rock solid" , sorry had to make the pun

but the reason i state this is i did have stock creep after hundreds of rounds out , the laminate stock lost freefloat (barrel touching the stock) and the using the pillars i corrected the issue quickly and it made the mosin i feel more accurate and stable

video refrence
 
you know, i "accidentally" came across my wifes list of stuff she is considering geting me for christmas. and i noticed the olive drab archangel stock 2nd on the list. not sure how i feel about that, i need o read up on how sturdy they are and if the can be nedded to fit the gun tight. i also had an offer from someone on ne of these forums to sell me a barely used beautiful boyds stock, need to go through all my messages and find out who that was, it looked really nice. anyone know how tight the archangels are? i definetly like the look and it has a great shape for a bi-podded target gun
 
Nice work. Clark (here on the board) had a writeup on adding a third screw to the ATI mount to add some stiffness, though they're pretty good as they are.

BTW, that's not an M39. Without looking any further, it doesn't have an M39 front sight, and M39's have shorter barrels. If it's a VKT or Sako barrel, it's probably a Finn 91/30. If so, they're fairly uncommon- I think less than 10,000 made in 44-45.

Pics and writeup on the M39. I have an M39 barreled action that I too, have been looking for a reasonable stock. If I don't find one soon, it's going into the new thumbhole stock prototype.

http://www.mosinnagant.net/finland/finnish_mosin_nagantm39.asp
 
there are pro's and cons to the archangel stock

the one issue ive noted on a majority ive tried is the magazines failing to feed

and you must dremmel the stock to use your bent bolt

but it should be noted that the stocks did improve the accuracy of the mosins installed on them
 
Sorry for the delay, I had a mandatory "vacation" from the forum. You ate right, it is the m91, I knew that cause it says so right on the barrel. Tahunua, if I find out my wife is not getting me a stock, I will def buy yours. I forgot that I was already supposed to buy it from you
 
i have read an article here and there about the superior accuracy of the Finn's nagants over the russians. i thought possibly they would have tighter tolerences, better maintenece and i now a newer barrel. but i always though the differece would be negligible, not anything serious. so i took the finn out today to get a baseline bfore i chop and crown the barrel, do a trigger job and fit it to a stock. all can say is WOW. i was consisitently a great shooter, i put over 100 yards of various milsurps through it and always got a suprising result


http://s998.photobucket.com/user/nw...Uploads/IMAG0235_zps5xd5mkku.jpg.html?filters

http://s998.photobucket.com/user/nw...Uploads/IMAG0235_zps5xd5mkku.jpg.html?filters[user]=138368321&filters[recent]=1&sort=1&o=0

darnick, i cant his tablet to simply cop and paste. ill get to it tomorrow. long story short, i am at just hair over an inch or so at 75yards consistently. i was suprised enough to slug the bore when i got home, i have a finnish "D" barrel and it slugged at a incredible .3095. pretty sweet. i will be cropping the barrel by an inch this sunday and puting in a 10-11 degree recessed crown, and hope i can maybe even get it a little better,
 
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They're not anything like the "typical" Russian Mosin-Nagant.

Barrels, triggers, sights- all different. The only commonality is the receiver. The Russians mostly needed to field-trial rifles to determine which ones were to be scoped as accurate "snipers" (though there are some that posit they had some dedicated barrel "runs" for these). Those that passed were marked as such, though not all were put into service as such. I have one, a "Ch"proofed receiver that I've yet to shoot.

All of the Finn barrels were of high quality and tolerances, and .3095 is right where it should be. Only a few, like the M28/30 and it's iterations like the M28/76 target rifle have .308 groove barrels.

The Finns to this day, still have a Mosin-Nagant based rifle in active service, the TKIV-85.
 
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