Mosin-Nagant M91/30

John/az2

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I've already been searching the archives at http://www.mosin-nagant.net, but I wanted to pick the brains of you all here on TFL.

For those of you who own (I hope several do) a Mosin-Nagant M91/30, how accurate do you find it?
Do you own any other models?
If so how does it compare?

Thanks!
 
I have a Russian 91/30 from '41 (I think, or is it '39?)(bbl made at Izhevsk, receiver made at Tula - go figure), and it has an amazing trigger on it. Almost dangerous, in fact. I've shot 2.5" groups with it at 100 yds, despite the fact that the bore is UGLY. It's wonderfully fun to plink the 200 yd gongs with at the range - never misses. The rifle's like a .22 - everyone who's picked it up has enjoyed shooting it.

My understanding is that the Finn 91/30s are more accurate than the Russkis. (And someone just posted a bunch of Tikkas over on Tuco's Trader board, so . . . ). I don't like schlepping around a rifle with a 29" bbl, so my eye's always drawn to the Mosin carbines (I've had a couple 44s and I presently have a 91/59) but I have to admit the 91/30 balances like a dream. Plus, they look so good hanging on the wall.

My 44s both had better bores and worse (tho serviceable) triggers than my 91/30. They'd shoot about the same at 100 yds, maybe a little looser. My 91/59 shoots about the same as the 91/30, maybe a little better (I keep sneaking down toward sub-2" groups and then my shooting goes south). The carbines kick a hell of a lot more, though (especially the 91/59), plus they'll show you a watermelon-shaped ball of fire at noon in the NM desert. The 91/30 is much more pleasant; it lets you know you've shot something substantial but doesn't punish you.

My Finn 39 (SAKO, with a Chatellerault receiver), OTOH, is about like shooting my 94 Swede mauser. . . very accurate, and very pleasant to shoot. I've shot sub-1" groups at 100 yds with the Swede, and I've approached the 1" mark with the Finn. Man, that's a lot of gun for the money. But that's true of all the Mosins. I used to be such a snob against the Mosin Nagant system, and it's been such an epiphany discovering what great rifles they are. Buy lots of them!
 
Erich...

Thanks for the info!

I used to have a Finn Sako barreled M39, but it got taken in the raid on Jerry's Guns and Ammo in Mesa, so the ATF has it now.

I had put it up in trade toward a really nicely tricked out Finn Sako barreled M39... but, it looks like I need to build my own now.

With the price of the M91/30 at about $40.00 I was seriously looking to get a few of them, and hoping that one of them would come from the Tikka factory.

The Finn M39's I've seen run from $65.00 to $199.00 depending on the bluing condition.

I purchased an M44 that was unissued and I really enjoy it, as well, but since I have it on a wall mount I don't want to do any smithing on it...

You gotta love 'em!
 
Yikes! . . .

Hope you get it back soon! Allegheny Arms has just gotten in thousands of really nifty 39s; maybe you can find something there that you like.
 
The 91/30's are great rifles. However, if you buy one, make sure that you get a very good or better grade. I have two "good" condition 91/30's that have severe pitting and the headspacing is way off. The Finnish M39's are the "cadillacs" of the Ngants. Even a good condition M39 is way better than a 91/30 in my opinion. I scoped an M39 and it will outshoot most Remington 700's at the range. The M44's are a great bargain, but, they don't have the accuracy of the longer barrel M39 or 91/30. Unless you're Paul Bunyon, 5 rounds out of an M44 will probably be all you can take in one day.
 
Does Allegheny Arms have a web site? I tried a search but came up blank.

Hammy,
I can shoot the M44 for about 30 rounds or so, but you've got to hold it just right, and as you said, it is unforgiving when you hold it incorrectly. :eek:
 
Tuco had a link posted on his discussion boards, but it might have been his own thing (as opposed to AA's official site) since it only showed photos of guys unloading crates and crates of fancy Finns. If you post a question over at MN.Net I'm sure someone will tell you how to hook up with AA.
 
Got one with black bore but it gets 2" groups at 100 yds.
Nothing to really brag about, I guess, but I'd hunt with it.
 
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