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emailed to me today from my "friends" at Stopthenra.com :barf:

PHP: 
Texas StoptheNRA Member,

Help us stop dangerous Guns in the Workplace legislation that would force businesses in Texas to allow guns on their own privately held, business-owned property, whether they want to or not! The Texas House Law Enforcement Committee will soon vote on this bill, SB 534, and your help is needed to stop this dangerous piece of legislation. 

EMAIL THE TEXAS HOUSE LAW ENFORCEMENT COMMITTEE TODAY
Tell them: "Oppose SB 534. Keep Guns Out of the Workplace!" 

If passed, SB 534 will force businesses to allow virtually anyone to bring guns, including deadly assault weapons, onto their privately-owned business property, whether they like it or not. To add insult to injury, this legislation also threatens to punish employers should they choose to keep their workplaces safe by prohibiting guns. Think of the consequences if a disgruntled employee knew his or her gun were available to him or her at work.

Here is what you can do today:

1. Email the Texas House Law Enforcement Committee. 
Tell them: "Oppose SB 534 to keep guns out of the workplace!" 
One click will email the entire committee.

2. Forward this email to friends, family, and colleagues in Texas.

3. Click here to contribute to our efforts in Texas and across the country. Right now we have a matching gift from an anonymous donor. Your gift will be worth twice as much today!

For more information on this legislation and how to get involved in the gun violence prevention movement in Texas, please contact the Texas Chapters of the Brady Campaign.

We need to stop this NRA madness and keep our workplaces safe! Please send the email today. 

 
Sincerely,
Your Friends at StoptheNRA.com

good stuff coming from them. i particularly like the
including deadly assault weapons
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part. I just got over the flu, i am feeling sick again. hehe
 
Help us stop dangerous Guns in the Workplace legislation that would force businesses in Texas to allow guns on their own privately held, business-owned property, whether they want to or not! The Texas House Law Enforcement Committee will soon vote on this bill, SB 534, and your help is needed to stop this dangerous piece of legislation.

EMAIL THE TEXAS HOUSE LAW ENFORCEMENT COMMITTEE TODAY
Tell them: "Oppose SB 534. Keep Guns Out of the Workplace!"

If passed, SB 534 will force businesses to allow virtually anyone to bring guns, including deadly assault weapons, onto their privately-owned business property, whether they like it or not. To add insult to injury, this legislation also threatens to punish employers should they choose to keep their workplaces safe by prohibiting guns. Think of the consequences if a disgruntled employee knew his or her gun were available to him or her at work.

Here is what you can do today:

1. Email the Texas House Law Enforcement Committee.
Tell them: "Oppose SB 534 to keep guns out of the workplace!"
One click will email the entire committee.

2. Forward this email to friends, family, and colleagues in Texas.

3. Click here to contribute to our efforts in Texas and across the country. Right now we have a matching gift from an anonymous donor. Your gift will be worth twice as much today!

For more information on this legislation and how to get involved in the gun violence prevention movement in Texas, please contact the Texas Chapters of the Brady Campaign.

We need to stop this NRA madness and keep our workplaces safe! Please send the email today.


Sincerely,
Your Friends at StoptheNRA.com
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"Help us stop dangerous Guns in the Workplace legislation that would force businesses in Texas to allow guns on their own privately held, business-owned property, whether they want to or not!"

This is called "The Chicken Little The Sky Is Falling Response." Run around in a panic and people will gravitate to you.

There is a Bill before the State House that would prevent any commercial property holder from banning the presence of any legal guns in a parking lot. Currently, commercial property owners can post a parking lot PC30.06 and prevent the legal carry of weapons. Some attempt to prevent even the presence of legal weapons, regardless of the fact that they aren't being carried but are simply in the automobile.

The Bill in the House just prevents them from posting parking lots.
 
Texas laws use the word "premises" in my CHL class taught by a local Officer parking lots are not considered part of the premises. His saying was, "when in doubt leave it in the car".
 
Eghad,

It's not about legality--it's perfectly legal to leave the gun in the car.

It's about companies making policy that effectively disarms an employee from the time he leaves the house until he returns home that night. The penalty is termination, not jail.

Sure, it's easy to say to get another job, but I already had many years invested at my current company when they made this policy. And if I DID switch jobs to a company that didn't have such a policy there's no guarantee that the new company wouldn't adopt a similarly hostile policy in time.

They've got me over a barrel because they CAN, and it's all about limiting their liability. That's why all of these laws throw the companies a bone in the form of immunity for liability relating to an employee's gun that is stored in a locked car in the company parking lot.
 
I was only responding to the question that the poster said that parking lots were not mentioned.

I understand what you are saying about the employers and support the legislation being presented. I just chose not to elaborate on that.

I work at a Federal installation and the CG has a standing order that no privately owned weapons will be allowed. I understand the problem.
 
Texas laws use the word "premises" in my CHL class taught by a local Officer parking lots are not considered part of the premises. His saying was, "when in doubt leave it in the car".
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That is only partially true. PC46.035 lists the places that concealed firearms are prohibited and states that the "premises" do not include parking lots, driveways and sidewalks.

PC §46.035. UNLAWFUL CARRYING OF HANDGUN BY LICENSE
HOLDER.

(3) "Premises" means a building or a portion of a building. The
term does not include any public or private driveway, street, sidewalk
or walkway, parking lot, parking garage, or other parking area
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PC30.06 does not include the word "premises", it says "property" and a parking lot is property.

PC §30.06. TRESPASS BY HOLDER OF LICENSE TO CARRY
CONCEALED HANDGUN. (a) A license holder commits an offense if
the license holder:
(1) carries a handgun under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter
411, Government Code, on property of another without effective
consent; and
(2) received notice that:
(A) entry on the property by a license holder with a concealed
handgun was forbidden; or
(B) remaining on the property with a concealed handgun was
forbidden and failed to depart.
(b) For purposes of this section, a person receives notice if the
owner of the property or someone with apparent authority to act for the
owner provides notice to the person by oral or written communication.
(c) In this section:
(1) "Entry" has the meaning assigned by Section 30.05(b).
(2) "License holder" has the meaning assigned by Section
46.035(f).
(3) "Written communication" means:
(A) a card or other document on which is written language
identical to the following: "Pursuant to Section 30.06, Penal Code
(trespass by holder of license to carry a concealed handgun), a person
licensed under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code (concealed
handgun law), may not enter this property with a concealed
handgun"; or
(B) a sign posted on the property that:
(i) includes the language described by Paragraph (A) in both
English and Spanish;
(ii) appears in contrasting colors with block letters at least
one inch in height; and
(iii) is displayed in a conspicuous manner clearly visible to
the public.
(d) An offense under this section is a Class A misdemeanor.
(e) It is an exception to the application of this section that the property
on which the license holder carries a handgun is owned or leased
by a governmental entity and is not a premises or other place on which
the license holder is prohibited from carrying the handgun under
Section 46.03 or 46.035.
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Remember that PC30.06 only prohibits legal concealed carry and does not apply to firearms in a vehicle but there has been a recent movement to allow property owners to prohibit the presence of legal weapons entirely and the Bill before the house counters that.
 
Bell Helicopter-Textron, Fort Worth, TX prohibits firearms in workers cars parked on the parking lot. However if somebody steals your tires, hubcaps,
or other things on, in, or about your car, "We can't be responsible for thefts on the parking lots"..........

Security has been known to patrol through the parking lot with drug sniffing dogs that will home in on a car with drugs inside, which is a very sensible and
good thing for security to do. Snooping for guns and ammo is not, but we know not whether that has ever been done.

Nearly thirty years of those parking lots and always with a loaded pistol in my car and my considering that what was legal in the highway was okay for my parking place. Long gone but if to do over again, I'd have that pistol in my locked vehicle.................
 
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