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Tamara

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My Speer plastic training ammo came in at the shop yesterday!

For those not familiar with it, it consists of a red plastic case, and a black plastic wadcutter-like bullet. You assemble the two together and seat a large pistol primer, et voila! More fun than should be had indoors with your clothes on! Accuracy out of a 442 was minute-of-cardboard box at ten to fifteen yards (we only popped off two rounds to function check before we felt guilty for having fun on the clock) and the primer didn't back out enough to impede the function of the weapon.

Do not use these for pet discipline or other "Hey, y'all! Watch this!"-type activities, as they are advertised as having a muzzle velocity of 400fps, which translates into the wadcutter bullet blowing through both layers of heavy cardboard on the bottom of a box used to ship Alliant Powder, and leaving a pretty serious ding in the top, from ten-ish yards away. You have been warned. :eek:

These things are available in .38, .44, and .45.
 
The noise level is very mild, like a paper-tape cap gun or a powerful pneumatic air pistol. Much quieter than shooting Colibris or CB Caps out of my Model 34.
 
Close the garage door. :)

One backstop I've had recommended is to take a large cardboard box and set it up with the open end facing you, then affix a towel you don't like anymore so it hangs over the open end. Instant indoor target range.

These things appear to work with HKS speedloaders, too.

Hey, here's another wheelgun advantage! You sure can't do live-fire practice in your living room, from the leather, including reloads, with a semiauto. Well, you could, at least until the SWAT team showed up... ;)
 
I have been using the Speer plastic bullets and .45ACP cases for practice. I load the practice ammo into RIMZ polymer clips and it makes for fast practice loads for the revolver. They have a great idea.
 
a word to the wise though in that make sure there isn't any high strung pets(french poodle (my mothers in case you were wondering)) around when you shoot them(practice ammo and not the pet). they go absolutely nuts for a long time before they calm down.
 
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I got some many years ago. The cases didn't last very long as most started to show cracks in a short while. I still use the bullets in brass cases that I modified though.
 
First report from the front:

So, I'm twirling around, bored, in the office chair in front of my computer when my eye comes to rest on the large, heavy cardboard box that my wall-mounted propane heater came in. A 20-watt bulb flickered into spastic brightness over my noggin, and I ran to the bedroom to retrieve the 2" Model 64 currently serving as my bed gun.

I dumped out the 158gr LSWC-HP +P's that were in it, and ran downstairs, towing the box behind me. I quickly loaded up six rounds of the plastic bullets, set the box on the porch over by the ivy, and dumped the cylinder into it in rapid fire from about seven yards. I was rewarded with a palm-sized group (about what I could expect with real ammo shooting that fast) centered about an inch or two low, and...

...the disturbing sight of Tennessee summertime sunlight streaming through the bullet holes.

I now have 44 plastic bullets and fifty plastic cases, since I am not about to risk the yellowjackets that dwell in the ivy to crawl about, attempting to retrieve the other six projectiles. :(

Use a flexible or baffled backstop to catch these little missiles.
 
STOP! You are killing my budget. Every time I here about another wonderful device(s) I have to go out and buy some. Oh heck! There goes my budget again! :D
 
Tam, it sounds like you've found the perfect yellow jacket removal tools there. :D Put some syrup bait inside a bullet trap box on the porch. Too much fun.
 
Don't forget not to use them indoors without ventilation. The primers contain lead and other heavy metals. I plan on getting some PMC green to see how they work.
 
Are these similar to the powderless super-sub-sonic .22 rounds from Aguila?

This from their website:
Aguila Ammunition - New Products
.22 Super Colibrí (No Gunpowder)
Its basic characteristics are:

Bullet configuration - Energy Conical, Solid Point
Bullet Material - Lead
Bullet Weight - 20 grains (1.296 grams)
Velocity - 500 fps (152 mps) - 11 Ft-Lb

After the great popularity achieved by our .22 Colibri, we decided to develop another cartridge, also without gun powder, providing it with a higher velocity. The .22 Super Colibri is a round for those wishing to have more power while still being able to discharge their firearms without bothering to wear ear protection.

The most relevant difference with the .22 Colibri is that this new round has almost 33% higher velocity!

It will not cycle the slide of semi automatics firearms.

WARNING: This cartridge is lethal at short and medium distances. All regular safety principles apply!

WARNING: These primer only loaded rounds must be fired only in handguns. When fired in long barreled firearms such as rifles, bullets may remain lodged inside the longer barrel. A subsequent firing of a regular .22 rimfire cartridge may result in injury or death to the user or other.
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I use the super-subs quite frequently from my kitchen out into the back yard. No complaints from anyone yet (and I live in an apartment complex).

Honest Officer, I swear that squirrel was charging me!

:D
 
Are these similar to the powderless super-sub-sonic .22 rounds from Aguila?
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NO!!!

There is much more chance of killing someone with the .22s

I am NOT suggesting that plastic bullets are SAFE. I'm saying the .22s are throwing real lead, and should be taken as seriously as any real ammunition.


The plastic is dangerous too, but not in the same league.
 
Someone mentioned wax bullets here, . . . a few decades ago, that was the way to go. See your local beekeeper for some wax, melt it into a cookie sheet, about 3/8" thick (maybe more). Put new primers in MT cases and load em up by simply pushing into the wax.
The rage for a while was to use a full length heavy plate glass mirror and see if you could out draw the guy you saw in the mirror.
I never did it myself, but bunches of folks did from what I heard about.
Oh well, . . . reminiscing of old days.
May God bless,
Dwight
 
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