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what are 9mm 121 grain IFP bullets from Montana gold?
Are they something Flat Point

think they would be ok for .357 Sig
 
No clue. It's not directly descriptive of the physical construction, so it may be something they made up when they didn't know how to categorize it? I saw a thread in which the same question was asked on The High Road forum along with a "what would you choose"? Many replies later with no answer to what an IFP is?

Best bet would be to call and ask MG what they mean? Let us know, if you get a satisfactory explanation?
 
IFP = International Full Pro

Without a cannelure it may not hold in the 357 sig case.

The people at Montana Gold are wonderful to work with. Call or e-mail them and see what they say. They also may be able to put a cannelure on the bullet.
 
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They work great in .357 Sig, just make sure you use Lee Factory Crimp Die, it does extremely good job at holding it. There is no need for cannelure.
 
They seem to be the same bullet as their 115 gr HP, EXCEPT is has 6 grs more lead so that is appears to be a soft point. In other words where the 115 gr has a HP, on the 121 gr., you clearly see lead "flush" with the tip of the bullet. Both bullets appeared to be shaped the same. I certainly can't verify my theory. I came to this conclusion by just looking. I didn't do any measurements.
 
121 ifps have the same profile as the jhps. fmj bullets have exposed lead on the base and cmjs have an enclosure disc to encapuslate the lead.
all our 9mm bullets are too long in the nose to work for the sig. norm

^^answer from Montana Gold^^

sounds like Waldog is right.
 
I called them and asked about using their 9mm for 357Sig and vice versa and they said they would not work. They do make a bullet specifically for the 357 Sig though, just don't appear to have any stock at this time. I bought 1000 of their sig bullets and they work well.
 
I use there 121 IFP in my 357 sig reloads.The longer bearing service is what is needed for the sig round. The IFP looks to be the same as the Speer and Hornaday sig specific bullet. I use AA9 to help control bullet setback.
 
I have wondered the same thing, they wouldn't specify. At first I thought they may be too long, but the 125gr .355 357Sig specific bullets I have average about .530" in length versus .566" of the 155gr Rainiers .355 dia I have been loading for 9mm. I don't see why they wouldn't work but they were atimate they they shouldn't be used in a 9mm and their 9mm bullets not used in a 357 Sig. I have emailed them again asking for clarification and will let you know what they say.
 
Got a response back from Montana Gold:

"hi ryan, i think you will find the nose will be too wide to feed reliably in 9mm. norm
----- Original Message -----
From: Ryan
To: bullets@montanagoldbullet.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 8:37 PM
Subject: 125 gr .355 dia 357 Sig bullets


A few months ago I purchased some .355 dia 125gr 357 Sig bullets from your company. I shoot a lot of 9mm and was wondering if there was any reason these bullets could not be loaded in 9mm?"
 
Montana Gold 121 gn IFP bullet uses

I am an avid reloader and own many calibers to include the 380,9mm,357 sig in the .356- diameter category. My recent purchase of the above named MG 121 IFP shows promise as well in my beloved 357 SIG. As most reloaders realize, the 357 Sig is limited to a particular bullet length of NMT 1.140". I made a tool steel gauge that is exactly the thickness of the amount of bullet that sticks out of the end of a properly loaded 357 Sig round. This gauge thickness is .275 inches with an exact .3555" bore at the insert end of my gauge. If any amout of bullet(projectile only) is inserted in my gauge and sticks out the opposite end,that bullet is too long to use in the 357 Sig. The .3555" hole is where the bullet hits the beginning of its ogive. There should be enough purchase on the bullet base diameter for a decent taper crimp. This gauge saves a lot of headaches with trying to use too long an ogive bullet.
 
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