Model 70?

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I saw in the LGS a Winchester Model 70 with Iron Sights, and a wood stock. Really nice bluing. I always thought these were more expensive rifles, this one was $450 with scope mounts. It has this little knurled ring going around the middle of the bolt handle knob. Would it be worth it? I need to look it over but it looks new, it has the controlled round feed action, I think. Was considering buying it with the money from my H&R.

What do you guys think?
 
What shape is the bore in?

I have long maintained that the very best values to be found in a hunting rifle are nearly always on the consignment racks in February and September. In February, the Christmas bills can't be put off any longer, hunting season is over for many months, and folks of limited means will sell what they don't need right then ..... In September, they trade in perfectly good guns for "next big thing" that all the gun rags say everybody must have....

If it's a real Model 70, and not one of those cost cutting push feed "Shadow" jobs they dumped on the market to compete with Remington's cheaper 700 price point, with a decent bore (nearly anything in a non-varmit caliber will be fine if it's not rusted- deer rifles, in most cases, don't get shot more than a box a year).... I'd jump on it for $450.
 
There are about 4-5 different era's of model 70's. Each has it's own price range. You are probably looking at a post 1964 push feed rifle. Those made 1964 up to about 1980 are the least desirable and the least valuable. $450 would be on the high end for one of those, but not bad if in great shape. If it is CRF it is a steal at that price.

The push feeds made in the 1980's and 90's stamped XTR are a better rifle and will bring a little more. $450 would be a fair price for an XTR.

Pre-64's were controlled round feed and those made made prior to WW-2 are the most collectable and most expensive.

Pre -64's made between the end of WW-2 up to 1964 used to sell at a premium, but most common rifles of that era are around $600-$700 now. Some rare configurations or calibers will bring a premium.

Winchester brought back CRF in the early 90's with the "Classic" line of rifles. Those are probably the best of the model 70's. They incorporate the CRF with modern manufacturing. Most of those will now bring more than a common pre-64 rifle. There were a lot fewer made, only in production from 1992-2006. If it is a Classic it will be CRF, but say made in New Haven. Some early versions say "Classic" on them. That was dropped some time after 1999.

The newest version is actually made by FN. They are very good too, but have only been in somewhat limited production since 2008. The FN rifles do not have "made in New Haven" stamped on them. And $450 would be a very good price.
 
Seems like a reasonable price if the gun fits you and you like it.

If it were chambered for a cartridge I want I would like it too.

If it kicks I like a pad on mine.
 
It's in .30-06, so I wouldn't have to use my .22-250 for deer, and Its got a really nice set of iron sights. If it kicks too much I can get lighter loads I suppose, I do have a recoil pad aswell.
 
It's in .30-06, so I wouldn't have to use my .22-250 for deer, and Its got a really nice set of iron sights. If it kicks too much I can get lighter loads I suppose, I do have a recoil pad aswell.
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My dad picked up a Remington 721 in 30-06 for and PPU factory 180gr ammo whacked him pretty good, so I rolled him up some 150gr Winchester Power Points over 50 grains of IMR 4320 .... 2600 f/sec and kicks like a kitten out of that 10 lb. rig ....
 
I have one I bought in about 1993 that came with iron sights. It is a "Ranger" version which means there were some imperfections with the blueing so they threw a non-walnut stock on it (still very nice though) and sold it as a budget model with iron sights. Thing is the barrels were still high grade. Mine holds 1/2 MOA. If it's a "Ranger" I would jump on it.
 
If it had a light colored, almost birch looking stock without checkering, then the one I looked at was a Ranger. It was a kind of satin finish, but the bluing still looked good. I think I'll put some money on it today if the bore looks nice and it's sound in the action.
 
The Model 70 action alone is worth $450. Control feed/push feed, doesn't matter. Anything else that's on the rifle is gravy.

I have 13, but if I can find an action for $450, I'm going to have a Model 70 in 260 Rem or 6.5X55.

My problem is every time I find a M-70 thinking of just the action, the rifle ends up being better then I thought so I leave it as is.

Now I'm having to build my 6.5 on a Swedish Mauser action and limit the pressure, which I wouldn't have to do with the Model 70.

You wont be disappointed with the Winchester.
 
It looked absolutely great in store, it will certainly be an upgrade over my Handi Rifle, for deer and everything else, plus a bolt action instead of a single shot. Just hoping the bore is good and the action is smooth/ish.

Thanks everyone! Going to the gun store this afternoon to look at it, so here's hoping.
 
Laid away the Model 70 today, $481.50 after tax. 90 days to get it out, obviously going to to get it out before then, hopefully by the end of next week. Bore was very bright, bluing was very bright and the stock had only extremely small indentations from storage. The sights were nice and the bases looked nice. Bolt was GLASS, smoother than I've ever felt. It was a jeweled bolt, push feed, but I don't care that much. Safety was nice and crisp. The wood had a decent recoil pad, nothing major though, the color was great, like a dark birch kind of deal that was a halfway satin/glossy finish. Came with sling studs. Will lost pictures when I get it out. Thanks again guys!
 
Guess that Axis upgrade will have to wait! Load some 125 grain Nosler BT or 130 grain Barnes TTSX in it and go kill deer. You won't even notice the recoil with those loads and you can work up to 180's when the time comes.
 
That was the only thing I'm worried about, even 147's in the Mosin can push me around enough to notice, let alone 180s in a. 30-06, I probably will buy some of those noslers though.
 
That's pretty neat, I knew I had saw something like that sewn into some shooting jackets, might end up ordering that after I get the rifle. Could use it with my Mauser, aswell, my K-31, those seem to kick pretty hard with military weights.

Thanks for the link!
 
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