Model 1917 Revolver?
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Bob Wright
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I don't know the serial number range, but open the cylinder and look throught the chambers. If they are bored smooth, clips are required. If you see the step, no clips are required for firing. But its the old No. 2 yellow pencil for ejecting. Or, as I point out in another thread, a red Coca Cola pencil works well, too.
Bob Wright
Bob Wright
Moon Clips
Here is the answer to the moon clip dilemma:
1. Buy enough moon clips to load all the ammo you like to shoot in a session (if you will shoot 50 rounds get 10 MCs)
2. The day before you are going to shoot turn on a football game and open a beer, I prefer Guiness, but to each his own.
3. Load the clips while you are watching football and drinking beer. You will hardly notice you are doing the loading.
4. Go shooting, have fun, pop a few holes in the beer can from the day before.
5. After shooting turn on a football game and open a beer.
6. Unload the clips (one of the tools sold makes this a much easier process) into a coffee can or something if you want to keep the cases for reloading, or straight into the trash if they are steel. Again with the distractions of football and beer you will hardly notice the unloading.
7. repeat as needed.
Here is the answer to the moon clip dilemma:
1. Buy enough moon clips to load all the ammo you like to shoot in a session (if you will shoot 50 rounds get 10 MCs)
2. The day before you are going to shoot turn on a football game and open a beer, I prefer Guiness, but to each his own.
3. Load the clips while you are watching football and drinking beer. You will hardly notice you are doing the loading.
4. Go shooting, have fun, pop a few holes in the beer can from the day before.
5. After shooting turn on a football game and open a beer.
6. Unload the clips (one of the tools sold makes this a much easier process) into a coffee can or something if you want to keep the cases for reloading, or straight into the trash if they are steel. Again with the distractions of football and beer you will hardly notice the unloading.
7. repeat as needed.
Murphy (Colt New Service Revolvers) says that two Colt's with straight bored cylinders he examined were in the 160000 series (that is Colt serial numbers, not Army serial numbers. The serial number at which Colt began military production is in dispute, but 160000 would undoubtedly be early.
Jim
Jim
glenncal1 has the idea right and they are very fast reloads
VIDEO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ozh3kiokyKI&list=UUEw6dHdKyDmGiURtDZjjcBA&index=27&feature=plcp
VIDEO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ozh3kiokyKI&list=UUEw6dHdKyDmGiURtDZjjcBA&index=27&feature=plcp
Mike Irwin
Staff
Problem is, I don't know if anyone currently makes full moon clips that will specifically fit the Colt 1917 revolver.
I know the military half moon clips were designed to fit either revolver, but full moons may give you some issues.
Check with Beckham products, makers of Rimz clips. They're polymer and are a dream to load and unload.
I don't know if they make for the 1917 Colt or not, or if the S&W specific moon clip can be used.
I know the military half moon clips were designed to fit either revolver, but full moons may give you some issues.
Check with Beckham products, makers of Rimz clips. They're polymer and are a dream to load and unload.
I don't know if they make for the 1917 Colt or not, or if the S&W specific moon clip can be used.
OK--just went out and tried it. Full moon clips that I use in
my S&W 625, loaded with inert rounds.
1917 S&W 45 ACP----they fit fine.
I don't have a 1917 Colt, but I tried it in
a 1913 era Colt New Service 38-40. They
started in, and it looks like they would work
just fine in a 1917 45 ACP Colt.
my S&W 625, loaded with inert rounds.
1917 S&W 45 ACP----they fit fine.
I don't have a 1917 Colt, but I tried it in
a 1913 era Colt New Service 38-40. They
started in, and it looks like they would work
just fine in a 1917 45 ACP Colt.
You guys need to stop talking about M 1917 revolvers, It depresses me.
I had a near perfect S&W M1917 revolver, worked great, shot great.
But I lost it in a burglary. It's stoled about 26 of my revolvers. Through the ones they didn't think they could sell in a lake. We caught the guy, and retrieved all but three. One a 2" model 10 he traded for pot. And two that we didn't retrieve from the lake. Fire department divers recovered all but two, one was my M1917.
Been looking every since for a replacement.
I had a near perfect S&W M1917 revolver, worked great, shot great.
But I lost it in a burglary. It's stoled about 26 of my revolvers. Through the ones they didn't think they could sell in a lake. We caught the guy, and retrieved all but three. One a 2" model 10 he traded for pot. And two that we didn't retrieve from the lake. Fire department divers recovered all but two, one was my M1917.
Been looking every since for a replacement.
jglsprings
New member
Okay, this may be a bit off topic. But a million years ago, in a life far, far away...
I was just a dumb kid walking through a gun show in Billings, Mt. "The guy" had two fruit boxes of 1917s. Colts in one pile, S&W in the other. $75.00 apiece.
I thought, wow junk guns. *SIGH*.
Everytime I see one now I think - stupid hurts forever.
I was just a dumb kid walking through a gun show in Billings, Mt. "The guy" had two fruit boxes of 1917s. Colts in one pile, S&W in the other. $75.00 apiece.
I thought, wow junk guns. *SIGH*.
Everytime I see one now I think - stupid hurts forever.
Moon Clips for 1917 Colt
I have a 1917 Colt and use the Rimz polycarbonate moon clips for the range and they fit the cylinder with no problem.I originally got the clips for an S&W 22-4 but they fit either revolver equally well.I have some loaded steel moonclips for SD which I never unload to avoid potential warping.The polys are very easy on one's fingers for loading or unloading without a tool.
I have a 1917 Colt and use the Rimz polycarbonate moon clips for the range and they fit the cylinder with no problem.I originally got the clips for an S&W 22-4 but they fit either revolver equally well.I have some loaded steel moonclips for SD which I never unload to avoid potential warping.The polys are very easy on one's fingers for loading or unloading without a tool.
Mike Irwin
Staff
'I have a 1917 Colt and use the Rimz polycarbonate moon clips for the range and they fit the cylinder with no problem.'
That's what I was hoping for! Someone who is actually using them in a Colt 1917.
That's what I was hoping for! Someone who is actually using them in a Colt 1917.
Mike Irwin
Staff
"Cylinder throats DO have the steps"
Apparently only the first few thousand of the Colts didn't have stepped chambers, even though the military called for it. They accepted it as an expediency to get guns.
Apparently only the first few thousand of the Colts didn't have stepped chambers, even though the military called for it. They accepted it as an expediency to get guns.
"Step" is an informal but clearly understood term. "Throat" in a chamber is the part ahead of the case mouth, where the bullet sits. The term most commonly used for the "step" in a chamber for a cartridge that headspaces on the case mouth is "shoulder" or "headspace shoulder."
Jim
Jim