MkII v. 22/45!!??

V

VaughnT

New member
I have led an evil life and God is constantly tormenting me for it. His most recent trial is to decide on which of these two weapons will next grace my presence and deplete my bank account.

I went down to one of the local shops, to do a most-innocent article for the newspaper, when what should be there but several of each.

I liked the one 22/45 with the 3.5" bull barrel, but I didn't care for the plastic receiver. He says all 22/45's have plastic lowers but I thought they were used for military training way back before there was plastic?!?

Well, then he shows me a MkII with the 5" (Ithink) bull barrel...in stainless!!!!! I DON'T HAVE A STAINLESS GUN!!!!!! It looks sooooo pretty! It's all metal!!!

I want to stay in the 1911 family of weapons so the controls are basically similar. That means the I should go with the 22/45. BUT, I like all metal in my hand, not tupperwar.

I have just recovered from a Makarov fixation (saved the bank account but that damnedable 'For Sale' board isn't helping any, TYVM!!!) and really don't want to invest in another pistol when I really can't afford it.

What am I to do?

Some jerk is selling a Ceiner conversion kit for a measily $200, keeping me in the 1911 family, but that isn't a new gun entirely.

I could get one of each, but that's almost a month's salary...and I can't afford that!! Why do you tempt me so??? What did I do that was awful compared to the likes of Papa Doc or Hitler? Is there no forgiveness?



------------------
When Reason Fails.....
 
I went for the MKII KMK-678GC it is stainless too. Mostly I liked the fact that the MK has been around a while and there are lots of aftermarket grips etc.. for it. Except for a "handall" sleeve there really isn't much you can do for the 22/45. As far as I know the 22/45 has never been used by the govt. but the MK govt. model has. I really like mine.
 
Greetings,

Of the two models you mention, I'd suggest the Stainless MkII with 5" barrel.

I have the 6 7/8" slabside, and I think it is too heavy for general plinkery. Either barrel length will outshoot you, no offense.

Regards,

Ledbetter
 
I am not sure how you take down a 22/45, but the normal MarkII is hard. The grips are shaped differently, so it depends which one feels good in your hand. There are lots of aftermarkit grip accesories that are availible for the MarkII, and I am nt sure what is out there for the 22/45. The MarkII is an exceptional pistol, andI am sure you will be very happy with either one.
 
I have the stainless 6 7/8" slabside mk2 as well. I love it. I have been shooting about 500 rounds a week through it all summer. It still looks and runs like brand new. DONT WORRY about difficulty of stripping a mkII it is very easy after you figure out the right angle to hold the gun at when you are putting it back together. It takes me about 20 seconds to put her back together. Now cleaning is a different area. Cleaning takes quite a while because there are some hard to reach areas around the feedramp. But its nothing toothpicks can't remedy. I would go with the mkII. Larz
 
I too have the 6-7/8 inch slab sided, stainless steel competition model. It is the most expensive of the MKII's but is also the best value. For a measly $30 extra above the cost of the next lower model, it comes drilled and tapped for a scope mount which is included along with stainless 1 inch rings. (this is important only if you think you may ever want to scope the gun). It also comes with the wood target thumbrest grips.

The MKII does have many more accessories available for it than does the 22/45. However, there are several available for the 22/45. The major difference is in the availability of grips for the MKII. As for the grips on the 22/45, there are a couple of companies out there that can modify the grip so that it will accept standard 1911 grips of your choice. Personally, I prefer the all metal gun, but the plastic framed guns seem to be very well made to last a long long time. Go with what feels best to you.

As Larz said, takedown of these guns is not difficult at all if you follow the directions in the manual. After you do it a few times it will become second nature.

As for cleaning, that too is a piece of cake. It's a .22 which means that the bore only needs to be cleaned when accuracy starts to degrade. As for the rest of the gun, if it's stainless steel, then it can go as long as the bore. I usually give my gun a thorough cleaning after every 500-1000 rounds or more. As for the hard to reach areas that Larz mentioned, I've found that a squirt or two of carburetor or brake cleaner acompanied by an old toothbrush and followed by a quick rinse under the faucet takes care of those spots in a jiffy.

As for barrel length. Go with what feels best. I like the longer barrel of the gov't competition model but it is a bit long for side carry. The short 4" carries great but gives up a bit in sight radius. The compromise would be the 5.5" which carries well and has a long enough sight radius to allow some fairly serious target work. If you're really crazy, Ruger makes one with a 10" barrel.

A great place to go for accessories is www.ontargetguns.com. I don't know these people but have ordered from them a few times and have gotten good service every time. They sell a speed strip kit which is supposed to make dissassembly easier as well as many accurizing parts. My favorite items are the extended magazine release and the trigger shield. Both of those items make the gun go from a pleasure to shoot to wonderful to shoot. My next investment is gonna be the Volquartsen accurizing kit.

Hope this helps.

Good luck.
 
Thanks for the input guys. I think I have to go with the MkII in stainless. It's soooo purty...and I don't have stainless in my collection.

The only problem I'm seeing now is that there are soooo many aftermarket products for the MkII. This is getting to be like my 1911 :D

------------------
When Reason Fails.....
 
I have a Mark II, SS, 6 7/8" standard barrel. It's not too heavy, is fun to shoot, accurate, and I've had it over 15 years and really like it.

Good luck.

------------------
NRA Life Member
Michigan Coalition for Responsible Gun Owners(MCRGO)
 
One dissenting vote: I have a Mk II 5.5 Bull, a 6 7/8 slabside and a 22/45. If I had to keep only one it would be the 22/45. It's just a personal thing but for me if the grip shape and angle doesn't approximate a 1911 I feel the designer messed up. The 22/45 feels perfect.

For real frustration, put Volquartsen trigger, sear and springs in a MK II. The 22/45 seems easier to work on.

[This message has been edited by Dingo (edited August 30, 2000).]
 
Get the one that you like!!! ... I went with the .22/45 as well. My only comment is that since the shop has several of each, go down and ask the guy to strip them. They both strip and re-assemble the same way (I used to have a MkII) but each one is slightly different and some are a piece of cake while others are damn near impossible. Plead with them to strip one for you ... if it is difficult to put back together, go for number 2!
They all shoot well!
saands.
 
I bought a Ruger Standard Model Mark 1 with fixed sights and a 6" tapered barrel in 1978 or so. I have shot 10ks of rounds throughit, and it still outshoots me! You can't go wong with the Ruger standard model, and it is a great training gun for newbies. It is also a great self defense gun, as you can afford to practice until you can put them "between the running lights". The gun is solid as a hammer, looks elegent (to me), points and grips like a dream, what is not to love? <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by VaughnT:
I have led an evil life and God is constantly tormenting me for it. His most recent trial is to decide on which of these two weapons will next grace my presence and deplete my bank account.

I went down to one of the local shops, to do a most-innocent article for the newspaper, when what should be there but several of each.

I liked the one 22/45 with the 3.5" bull barrel, but I didn't care for the plastic receiver. He says all 22/45's have plastic lowers but I thought they were used for military training way back before there was plastic?!?

Well, then he shows me a MkII with the 5" (Ithink) bull barrel...in stainless!!!!! I DON'T HAVE A STAINLESS GUN!!!!!! It looks sooooo pretty! It's all metal!!!

I want to stay in the 1911 family of weapons so the controls are basically similar. That means the I should go with the 22/45. BUT, I like all metal in my hand, not tupperwar.

I have just recovered from a Makarov fixation (saved the bank account but that damnedable 'For Sale' board isn't helping any, TYVM!!!) and really don't want to invest in another pistol when I really can't afford it.

What am I to do?

Some jerk is selling a Ceiner conversion kit for a measily $200, keeping me in the 1911 family, but that isn't a new gun entirely.

I could get one of each, but that's almost a month's salary...and I can't afford that!! Why do you tempt me so??? What did I do that was awful compared to the likes of Papa Doc or Hitler? Is there no forgiveness?

[/quote]
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top