Middle School 'Medical Quiz' Questions Kids About Parental Gun Ownership, And More

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Middle School 'Medical Quiz' Questions Kids About Parental Gun Ownership, And More
By Dana Davis, The Asheville Tribune

One parent expressed some concern recently after their child brought home a "Student Health Center Questionnaire" issued by the Buncombe County Health Center which asks students questions about their behavioral habits, including exercise, diet, eating disorders, drug habits, mental stability, sexual demeanor, and ownership or possession of weapons in the home. It was the ladder of these queries that most upset the parent.

The Buncombe County Health Center serves students at Erwin Middle School, Asheville High and Asheville Middle School, and the educational institutions that are associated or linked to them. In response to the concern, Nelle Gregory, Supervisor of the School Health Division of the Buncombe County Health Center, explained, "Only students who have written parent permission can use the health center." Subsequently, only students who have been permitted by their parents to use the health center can be given the survey.

When parents are given the consent form, they are given a preliminary questionnaire which asks many behavioral questions and a fact sheet which explains, amongst other things, "Each student attending the Student Health Center will complete a questionnaire to determine which common daily habits affect his or her health. Staff will discuss the use of seat belts, alcohol and tobacco, diet and exercise, sexual behavior (encouraging abstinence) and other health behaviors to encourage a healthy lifestyle."

The fact sheet fails to mention any inquiries into firearms and weapons possession in the home, which was exactly the line of questioning that upset one parent in particular. Though, Gregory responded, "That’s not intentional. I thought we had covered all of the bases." Gregory said they have an advisory board who makes the decisions regarding their public relations and added that she would present this issue to them and see if it, along with any other potentially "contentious" issues could be added to next year’s fact sheet.

As for the questionnaire itself, Gregory says they based it on a survey drafted by the American Medical Association (AMA). And as for their policies to inquire of students’ behavior as it relates to their health, she says that it is a common practice accepted by the medical field, including the AMA and the American Academy of Pediatrics. "We use that questionnaire as a guide, and as a teaching tool."

According to Gregory, the Health center initially began serving the school system in 1994, and since then, they have changed their format of treating students and interviewing them as oppose to giving them a questionnaire. Asked if the recent accumulation of school shootings and violence had anything to do with the questions pertaining to weapons, Gregory replied, "It’s in response to all of the behaviors that affects children in their youth. We’re trying to cover everything – how they exercise, diet, do they wear a seat belt, if they are older, then are they sexually active. Teenagers don’t think about the consequences. They think, nothing’s going to happen to me. I’m invincible, so they do things that may not be safe. We want to help them solve their problems. We’re not just medicating a problem, we’re trying to change a behavior."

"We’re trying to encourage kids if you are around a weapon, what would you do," Gregory continued. "Don’t touch that gun, call an adult. We don’t want them to pick it up and say, ‘oh cool’. We’re not trying to police anyone, we’re trying to make sure that the kid is safe."

Additionally, "If students have sexual questions we will give them accurate information, just as it’s important to give them information about a seat belt and wearing a bicycle helmet. And if they’re sexually active, we’re going to encourage them to abstain and talk with their parents or their church minister or whoever they feel secure with, about the dangers associated with risky behavior," Gregory stated.

Incidentally, sex education (a.k.a. Family Life Education) is a part of the Buncombe County and Asheville City School curriculum and parents are required to sign a consent form in order for their child to participate.

The student health questionnaire is voluntary and is not required for treatment of students, but Gregory says, "We encourage them to." Students who choose to answer the questionnaire, do so without the guidance of their parents. Instead, health center staff will talk with the student about their response to the questionnaire before sending a note home to the parents explaining that they talked to their child about their behavioral habits, leaving a phone number and encouraging parents to call the health department for further discussion and understanding.

Gregory adds, "We encourage that conversation because teenagers, becoming more independent, start to listen to their friends more, and we want to make sure that we support what their parents are doing – encouraging them to do the right, safe thing. And if you can start on the middle school kids, you can prevent some of their behaviors, like smoking and sex – more than half of the high school kids today smoke and 70% are sexually active."

Once the school health center – a staff consisting of a secretary, nurse, nurse practitioner, health educator and counselor – acquires this information from a student, "We will make a note of what the responses are as a confidential medical record, the same way your doctor’s office does," says Gregory.

She asserts that none of the responses are red flagged, but are used as a "teaching tool." "The only exception is if the student threatens to hurt themselves or someone else. Then we contact the appropriate authorities. And that’s the confidentially law – unless someone intends to harm themselves or others we must keep that information confidential."

How is the information used regarding the questions that ask if a student has any relatives or friends involved in illegal activity?

"If they’re not using (illegal substances), but they’re friends or family members are, then it’s a behavior that they may feel more comfortable beginning or using in the future. They’re at a little bit higher risk," Gregory explained. "We would not incriminate the people. We use it to say that we’re proud you’re not using these substances and to encourage good behavior."

Gregory says that if the questions on the survey were taken for face value that they could be misconstrued, claiming that they are given with the students’ best interest in mind, adding, "Anytime a parent is unhappy with the services they have the choice not to accept the services, and if they choose to continue to allow the student health center to continue with services we will continue to talk to them about behaviors. One of them being about having weapons in the home. Most of us live in the country (rural) and many of us have weapons in our home. So when we ask the student if they have weapons in the household and they say yes, we want to make sure how they treat that weapon, we want to determine that their behavior is safe. We are not trying to determine how many homes in Buncombe County have weapons. We are trying to make sure students know how to behave around weapons. What we talk about is gun safety. Is it locked up? Do you know where the bullets are? If the parent left the gun out, what would you do? Those are the types of questions we’ll ask as a follow up. Again, motor-vehicle accidents are the leading cause of death, and we are equally concerned with the use of seat belts. But homicide and suicide are the 2nd leading cause of death and we want to make sure that children know how to be safe around weapons."

The survey is as follows:
1. Sex?
2. Age?
3. Race?
4. What grade are you currently in?
5. How many meals do you eat each day?
6. Haw many snacks do you eat each day?
7. Do you eat fruits and vegetables every day?
8. Do you drink milk and/or milk products every day?
9. Do you do things to lose weight (skip meals, take pills, starve yourself, vomit, etc.)?
10. Are you satisfied with your weight?
11. Do you work, play, or exercise enough to make you sweat or breath hard at least 3 times a week?
12. Have you pierced your body (not including your ears) or gotten a tattoo?
13. Do you get at least 8 hours of sleep each night?
14. Do you currently have any problems with your teeth?
15. Have you been to a dentist in the last 2 years?
16. Is doing well in school important to you?

17. Are your grades this year worse than last year?

18. Are you getting failing grades in any subject this year?

19. Have you been suspended from school this year?

20. Have you ever thought seriously about running away from home?

21. Is there a gun, rifle, or other firearm where you live?

22. Have you ever carried a gun, knife, club, or other weapon to protect yourself?

23. Have you ever been in a physical fight where you or someone else got hurt?

24. Have you ever been in trouble with the police?

25. Have you ever seen a violent act take place at home, school, or in your neighborhood?

26. Are you worried about violence or your safety?

27. Do you usually wear a helmet and/or protective gear when you rollerblade, skateboard, or ride a bike?

28. Do you always wear a seat belt when you ride in a car, truck, or van?

29. Have you ever tried cigarettes or chewing tobacco?

30. Have any of your close friends ever tried cigarettes or chewing tobacco?

31. Does anyone you live with smoke cigarettes/cigars or chew tobacco?

32. Have you ever tried beer, wine, or other liquor?

33. Have any or your close friends tried beer, wine, or other liquor?

34. Have you ever been in a car when the driver has been using drugs or drinking beer, wine, or other liquor?

35. Does anyone in your family drink so much that it worries you?

36. Have you ever used marijuana (pot, reefer, or blunt)?

37. Have you ever used other drugs such as cocaine, speed, LSD, mushrooms, etc.?

38. Have you ever sniffed or huffed things like paint, "white-out", glue, or gasoline, etc.?

39. Do any of your friends get high?

40. Does anyone in your family use drugs so much that it worries you?

41. Have you ever had sex (gone all the way)?

42. Have you felt pressured by anyone to have sex or had sex when you didn’t want to?

43. Have you ever been told by a doctor or a nurse that you have a sexually transmitted disease?

44. Would you like to know how to avoid getting pregnant, getting HIV/AIDS, or getting sexually transmitted diseases?

45. Have you done something fun in the last two weeks?

46. When you get angry, do you do violent things?

47. During the past few weeks, have you felt sad or down as thought you have nothing to look forward to?

48. Have you ever seriously thought about killing yourself, mad a plan, or tried to kill yourself?

49. Have you ever been physically, emotionally, or sexually abused?

50. Have you ever lived in foster care or a group home?

51. What are your plans after you graduate?

52. If you could have three wishes come true, what would they be?





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The New World Order has a Third Reich odor.
 
This isn't only happening with kids. I am under an HMO, through work, and I had to go for a first visit. The took blood and then asked me some questions to help build a medical record. One of the questions they asked, after they stuck their finger up my butt to check my prostate, was, "Do you own guns or live in a house/apartment that has firearms?". I told them, "none of your f'in (can I say that here *I guess not) concern". Well, the rep. said, "I take that as a yes" and marked YES on the sheet. I told them to leave that question blank, they refused. Just to get on the bandwagon, I called (on a cell phone) a lawyer I know through my roommate and after they verified I was talking with a lawyer wrote "refused to answer". Of course, everyone that looks at the form will guess that there are firearms in the home and discriminate against me and if medical records ever get in the governments hands... well. Then, they counseled me on the hazards of smoking, drinking, and owning guns; also that they had "help" groups to help me with my "bad habits". Oh well. USP45usp
 
USP45usp: You need help. Bring all those nasty old guns over to my house and look for some new bad habits. :)

I wonder if they consider sticking their nose into someone else's business a health hazard?

Ledbetter
 
That kind of thing is exactly why we homeschool our kids....

My response to the ?aire: It's NUNYA bidness!

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"At last we shall reveal ourselves to the Gun-Grabbers, at last we shall have revenge at The TFL End of Summer Meet on August 12 & 13, 2000..."
 
ALERT FROM JEWS FOR THE PRESERVATION OF FIREARMS OWNERSHIP
America's Aggressive Civil Rights Organization

Date: June 9, 2000

Is Your Doctor A Spy -- Part 2

Our May 2, 2000 Alert revealed how doctors are now starting to gather information about firearms and their owners as part of the medical history. We shared the experience that one of our supporters had in April during a physical exam.

After our supporter refused to give the firearms information to the doctor, our supporter (the patient) contacted the hospital and lodged a complaint. The hospital has not yet returned with a response to the complaint, but the doctor did react.

By letter dated May 15 to our supporter, the doctor withdrew "from further personal attendance" as his physician. Citing "our differentiating [sic] opinions on how to provide quality care," the doctor abruptly terminated his relationship with our supporter.

Refusing to cooperate with the victim disarmament agenda put the pressure on the doctor, and the doctor ran away from the
confrontation. If everyone refuses to give doctors their personal information about firearms ownership, then the doctors
will give up this intrusive agenda.

Simple resistance is powerful resistance. And it works when you resist early enough. Just say "no." Just don't give up information and don't voluntarily cooperate with the government informers, be they doctors or anybody else.

The Liberty Crew



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Refuse to be a "helpless" victim.
Knowing Your Rights WAGC in Indiana
Come have some fun at theTFL End of Summer Meet, August 12th & 13th, 2000
 
Darthmaum,
That's one of the main reasons I also homeschool. My son wants to take a special summer school course offered this year at the school on rocks and fossils. It starts Monday and I'm already nervous. I found myself telling him not to talk about our guns or that he goes trap shooting or anything like that. Isn't that awful! Perfectly legal and wholesome hobbies and I have to caution my son not to talk about them when he's with kids his own age. His 3 weeks of being back in the public school system will probably age me a year!

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Refuse to be a "helpless" victim.
Knowing Your Rights WAGC in Indiana
Come have some fun at theTFL End of Summer Meet, August 12th & 13th, 2000
 
Blueyedog,

That's great that there's another homeschooler on TFL! How long have you been doing it? We will start our second year here soon.

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"At last we shall reveal ourselves to the Gun-Grabbers, at last we shall have revenge at The TFL End of Summer Meet on August 12 & 13, 2000..."
 
Well, I am soon to be a first-time Dad (Just found out!) :)

I'd really appreciate some good links on homeschooling and charter schools. I've seen more than enough!

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Oregon residents please support the Oregon Firearms Federation, our only "No compromise" gun lobby. http://www.oregonfirearms.org
 
Longshot,

Let me be the first to give you a hearty congratulations on your two foot home expansion project!

Here are some links for Homeschooling resources...http://www.hslda.org/
http://www.home-ed-magazine.com/

And I would recommend checking out a book from your library called, The Homeschooling Book of Answers, by Linda Dobson

It was a great help to me to put to rest some concerns I had about resources and ability.

I'm still so green (just starting this year) that I would refer you to those with more experience on this board to answer questions you might have! :D



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John/az
"When freedom is at stake, your silence is not golden, it's yellow..." RKBA!
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I done was home-taughted for 10 years of my being little. I no most everything I need to no to shoot my gun. :D

Actually, I was homeschooled for ten years and am a better man for it. The local school system used the courts to try to pressure my parents into placing us in the public schools, but my parents don't scare easily. :)

It is a hard and full time job though, so get lots of information and prepared before you go for it.

More important than whether you homeschool or not, is whether you teach your children what they need to know. If a child goes to public school, you have certain information and training they don't get at school, and you have to provide that. Even the best schools don't provide every bit of education a child needs, so it is not a matter of finding the right program or school, but monitoring your child's education no matter where he goes to school, and making sure he has everything he needs.

Kiffster

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John/az2:

Thanks, I'm very excited and ready for this "project". Scary, but wonderful.

Thanks to all for the links.

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NRA/GOA/SAF/USMC

Oregon residents please support the Oregon Firearms Federation, our only "No compromise" gun lobby. http://www.oregonfirearms.org
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Then, they counseled me on the hazards of smoking, drinking, and owning guns; also that they had "help" groups to help me with my "bad habits". Oh well. USP45usp[/quote]

Well, I quit smoking a few years ago, but I guess it doesn't count if I compensate with more of the other two!

Doc:"You know, even one beer a day can cause liver damage down the road."

Me:"Oh, OK......Ouch! Ouch! My liver hurts!" :D :D
(gotta keep her on her liberal little toes!)
 
Yet another reason for home schooling...

Same thing happened here at work, although not about firearms on the questionare. The company was offering a seminar to improve your communications skills. They gave everyone a questionare ahead of time for everyone to fill out before they went to the seminar.

I have great reservations about telling strangers what my personal habits/thoughts/etc are. Things like what type of person do I hold in high regard, and a list of no one I would choose (sports, political, religious, and business people were some of the choices.) Looked like a personality survey to me, not something that could help me communicate better.

They couldn't give me a good answer as to why these questions were needed (other than to help evaluate me), so I refused to answer them and did not attend the seminar.

I think these questionares are only being used to weed out the people from the sheeple... Oh, you object, sorry you must need re-education.

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Peace through superior firepower...
Keith

If the 2nd is antiquated, what will happen to the rest.
"the right to keep and bear arms."

[This message has been edited by KAM_Indianapolis (edited June 14, 2000).]
 
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