Michigan for Bush ?

2GSP

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Are any news sources commenting about Michigan ? The department of state's
web site has an unofficial count of
Bush: 1,707,535 Gore: 1,620,102
as of 11/8/2000 12:11 pm

See: http://www.sos.state.mi.us/election/results/00gen/01000000.html

It looks like the counties: 46 LENAWEE and
82 WAYNE have not been reported. Can these
two counties give Gore 87K more votes ?

It appears that Bush could actually win both Michigan[18] and Oregon[8]. This gives him a total of 272 without Florida.

Anyone in Michigan with more information ?

- Mike
 
Wayne County includes the city of Detroit. Gore and Debbie Stabenow(candidate for Senate) will probably take 90% or more of the vote in the city.

You can't expect Detroit to get their votes counted too soon. They always have some sort of problem or mix-up. It's to be expected.

straightShot

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Not a ghost of a chance of Wayne county going for Bush. As for the delay, Detroit always waits until the vote is in from the rest of the state; Can't stuff the ballot boxes until you know how many votes you have to invent!

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Add Dole and Clinton's '96 numbers from Wayne county, as an aproximation, and what you get is Bush 1,883,421 v. Gore 2,124,568. Bush would have to have done a LOT better in Wayne county than Dole did, in order to carry Michigan. It sure is a drag having this left-wing boat anchor tied to an otherwise conservative state!

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Thanks for the info, Brett and Spark. I thought it was to good to be true.

On the ABCnews site, they had Detroit city breakout as:
<OL TYPE=a>
<LI>Gore - 273,485 - 94% !!!!
<LI>Bush - 15,184 - 5%
<LI>Nader - 1,882 - 0.6%
</OL>

And I thought NY was messed up with NYC :eek:

Keeping my fingers crossed for Florida.
- Mike
 
2GSP: Now, I know Detroit is a left-wing h**l-hole, but THAT sounds overboard even for Detroit! I mean, even a loser like Dole got 24% in Wayne county...

Of course, Wayne county includes some suburbs, it's not just Detroit. Still, 5% of the vote in Detroit? That sounds seriously unreasonable. Anybody know how many votes Dole got in Detroit in '96, as opposed to all of Wayne county?

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Brett: I'm just posting the numbers from ABCNEWS: http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/politics/2000vote/general/MI_county.html

They have a list for Detroit City, Detroit Suburbs, and Wayne County.

City: G - 273,485, B - 15,184, N - 1,882
Subs: G - 132,005, B - 117,204, N - 5,522
Wayne: G - 501,948, B - 207,722, N - 8,335

Now the Detroit numbers don't add up to the Wayne county numbers. The Wayne percents are: G - 70% B - 29% N - 1%

These percents look more "correct".

I think that the Detroit/Subs were broken out for reporting purposes only. Still, 94% within the city !!!! Wow !!!! :eek:

-Mike
 
There is no way Bush will pick up either Wayne or Lenawee Counties. If he gets 40 percent in Lenawee, he'll have done well. If he gets 10 percent in Wayne, he'll have done amazingly well.
 
Those numbers for Detroit seem a little skewed, but unfortunately I can't say by how much. The bleeding heart city has always had a soft spot for whoever said they'd coddle them to the end.

Governor Engler (R) is pissed as hell at the automakers. He arranges for the big 3 for billions in tax cuts, abatements and concessions. Then accuses the management of political stupidity because they gave the rank and file union folks a paid day off to go vote. Who the hell do they think they're going to vote for anyway? Those people would have gotten out to vote anyway, but the numbers might have been slightly smaller. I don't think the difference would have accounted for that huge a deficit for Bush.

Livonia, where I'm at, still has a few auto facilities, but I believe the majority voted Bush. I'm almost ashamed.
 
Wayne was still not reported as of 9:30 am EST. The page had a last update of 11/8 3:40 pm. Michigan Results

Detroit was mentioned by Ed Rollins(I think) last night on MSNBC. He said that even if you trained people there is no way you could expect to get 95% of the vote !!! Then they cut to commercial.

However, in the time it took to write this post, Wayne appeared on the web page.
No breakout of Detroit though.

Wayne:
Gore - 502,729 - 68.5%
Bush - 219,307 - 29.9%
Nader - 11,089 - 1.5%

Totals:
Gore - 2,141,212 - 51.3%
Bush - 1,947,722 - 46.7%
Nader- 83,818 - 2%

The 200K plus votes in Detroit (as reported by ABC) made the difference.

-Mike
 
Once again, I'll be interested to see, first, what the turnout in Detroit was, and second, what percentage of that turnout was absentee ballots. We've got a BIG problem with ballot fraud in this country, folks, and the next couple of years, with a Republican President and Congress, may be the last opportunity we EVER have to do something about it peacefully.

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