Mexico urges Bush to veto U.S. border fence bill

rick_reno

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He wouldn't dare...

MEXICO CITY (Reuters) - Mexico pleaded with President Bush on Monday to veto a Senate proposal to build a fence to keep illegal immigrants out, saying it could backfire by making the border less secure.

The U.S. Senate overwhelmingly backed a bill on Friday to put up about 700 miles of fence, a project Republicans hope will impress voters calling for tougher immigration control ahead of November 7 congressional elections.

"The Mexican government strongly opposes the building of walls in the border area between Mexico and the United States," President Vicente Fox's spokesman Ruben Aguilar told reporters.

"This decision hurts bilateral relations, goes against the spirit of cooperation needed to guarantee security on the common border, creates a climate of tension in border communities," he said.

Aguilar said Mexico would send a diplomatic note to Washington on Monday urging Bush to veto the bill, which requires the president's signature to become law.

Bush had hoped for broad immigration legislation that would create a guest-worker program, which would match workers with jobs Americans are unwilling to do. But House Republicans had pushed for greater emphasis on sealing the porous frontier.

Mexicans are livid about the fence plan, which is seen as a slap in the face to efforts during Fox's near-completed six-year term to come to an agreement with Washington on immigration.

President-elect Felipe Calderon, who takes office December 1, also has lambasted the fence plan and the issue promises to prickle his relationship with Washington from the outset.

Hundreds of Latin Americans, mostly Mexicans, die each year crossing perilous rivers and deserts separating the two countries, and tougher control has increased fatalities.

"Partial measures focused exclusively on security ignore reality and represent ... a political answer rather than a viable solution to this problem," Aguilar said.

Asked about the fence at an international media forum in Mexico City, U.S. Assistant Secretary of State Thomas Shannon said: "We need to know who's coming across our borders and after years of not paying that much attention to the frontier ... we are now attempting to come to terms with it."

"We recognize that how this is perceived outside the United States is not positive but we would ask for patience."
 
While I'm all for securing the border an dmaking sure not one soul gets into this country illegally...I can't help but think about the fact that fences serve two purposes. They keep people out but they also keep people in. Just wondering what this fence will be like in twenty or thirty years.
 
I can't help but think about the fact that fences serve two purposes. They keep people out but they also keep people in. Just wondering what this fence will be like in twenty or thirty years.

You forgot a third purpose. At $4,000,000 a mile - they make the fence contractor a LOT of money. Does Haliburton build fences?
 
"This decision hurts bilateral relations, goes against the spirit of cooperation needed to guarantee security on the common border, creates a climate of tension in border communities," he said

Yeah, because said cooperation has thus far worked SO well in keeping them out. Of course they are opposed to it - illegals sending back billions of dollars to their country to prop up their poor families is the prime source of opiating the masses from revolt against the corrupt government there.
 
Think I need to get into the fence building business.

As far as I'm concerned, we need to build a fence along the entire border and then patrol it in one form or another. This fence is just a start. I doubt if it will make relations between the US and Mexico worse.

Bush wanted a "comprehensive immigration policy". This fence along a portion of the border is a reasonable start. The guest worker or work visa card can come later. I surprised that we don't already have one. Lets keep it simple.

What does Interstate Highway construction cost these days?
 
He wouldn't dare...

Wouldn't he? I think so. He has betrayed us in every other issue regarding Mexico. It can truely be said that if Bill Clinton was the first black president, then Jorge W. Bush is the first Mexican president. He and his family have strong political ties to the corrupt Mexican ruling elite.
 
Jorge W. Bush is the first Mexican president. He and his family have strong political ties to the corrupt Mexican ruling elite.


Reaaaalllyyy? Care to show a little proof of these ties?
 
Tee hee.

Reuters - July 15, 1945 -
Japan urged the United States today to cease the Manhattan Project, saying that, if continued, it would hurt bilateral relations and create a climate of tension regarding the current conflict.

"Partial measures focused exclusively on ultra-destructive weapons ignore reality and represent ... a political answer rather than a viable solution to this conflict," Emperor Hirohito was translated as saying.
 
"At $4,000,000 a mile - they make the fence contractor a LOT of money. Does Haliburton build fences?"

***What do you think? They do everything! Just subcontract it out to one of their many divisions like KBR. They're making out like bandits in Iraq, so why not here too?

Actually, I heard an interview with a Mexican shopkeeper in a border town on public radio last week--he was irate about the proposed fence, and said it was "an insult to all Mexicans." Huh? How on earth can securing our borders be an insult? I'm amazed anyone really thinks the US borders ought to be completely open to anyone who wants to walk in, no questions asked.
 
Firstfreedom is absolutely right. The USA is the pressure relief valve that prevents the conditions in Mexico from becoming so bad that they would cause the people to overthrowthe corrupt system of peonage that has plagued Mexico and the rest of Latin America for centuries. Apparently Mexicans have no compunction about treating their fellow countrymen as serfs. They used to blame their conditions on the conquering Eurpean powers and the USA. For the past hundred years they (the Mexicans) have done a wonderful job of impoverishing their own people and bankrupting their economy without any outside help. I say close the door and watch the fireworks begin.
 
Reaaaalllyyy? Care to show a little proof of these ties?

Love to. I can show you a reference but not the actual article as it is not available for online viewing.

http://www.amconmag.com/2006/2006_06_19/index1.html

It's this issue of American Conservative, the article titled "Dynasty Through Diversity" by Steve Sailer As you can see there is no link to it, but I have personally read the actual article as our family subscribes to the magazine.

It cites the various personal connections the Bush family as a whole has with various corrupt Mexican ruling class families.
 
Hey Ruben! You and Vinnie would be well advised to take what you can get. Be appreciative of the fact the legislation was written by our elected officials who are beholding to commercial interest demanding our acceptance of your social outcasts. I can assure you provisions would be quite different had inhabitants of flyover country wrote the legislation. If the Great Fed Up wrote the law you'd see a full length fence, vigorous workplace enforcement complete with time in the joint for business owners and managers, bounty system for legal immigrants dropping a dime on your citizens illegally in our country, abolishing anchor baby status, and the cut-off of ALL (let me repeat, ALL) social benefits.

Yessire my friend, you'd best take what you get and be happy because if we ever get control over congress things will be different.

Have a nice day. :)
 
Why is it that mexico doesnt give a damn about its people until they come over here and commit murder? That scumbag that killed the Houston cop has THREE attorneys, 2 funded by the taxpayers and one by the mexican government.

Forget the fence, the military is supposed to protect America, bring them back from iraq and let them secure our borders.
 
Forget the fence, the military is supposed to protect America, bring them back from iraq and let them secure our borders.

+1

Why is it that mexico doesnt give a damn about its people until they come over here and commit murder? That scumbag that killed the Houston cop has THREE attorneys, 2 funded by the taxpayers and one by the mexican government.

If I were the prosecutor, judge and jury, I would give him the death penalty 1) because he deserves it, 2) to the spite the Mexican government (who are always telling us we shouldn't use the death penatly)
 
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