Member Gender and Ownership

Are you a

  • Female?

    Votes: 4 4.1%
  • Male?

    Votes: 94 95.9%

  • Total voters
    98
  • Poll closed .

Ike666

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I am supervising a student's Master's thesis on gender specific fear of crime and gun ownership. The student is a female and she collected her ownership data via Amazon.com's Mechanical Turk (MTurk).

While there is wide spread anecdotal support for the idea that female ownership is proportionally on the rise (women are making up a larger percent of owners), there is no empirical evidence for this. The NSSF recently released a proprietary study on women's ownership trends but this is unavailable to non-business members.

It got me to thinking about how many times I've been surprised reading posts to discover that the forum member was a woman. So, my curiosity leads me to this poll.

If you'd care to tell me how long you've been a member that's be great. If not, then that's okay too. Because it is such a sensitive topic I am NOT asking about actual ownership.
 
I've been a member just over a year. I think the data might skew in the difference in tendencies for male vs female membership in forums, as well as willingness to answer polls. I guess some data is better than no data. You would probably do a little better to get counts of male vs female going to gun shows, gun stores, gun counters at box stores or range attendance.

There is one group locally that meets once a month. I occasionally attend but do get the attendance list. I do see more females attending over the last year.
 
I know that firearm ownership has boomed big time in the past several years . I know Men and Women that have bought thier first ever firearm , fear of crime would not be in thier top 3 reasons , its more of they have the freedom to own a fire arm and are going practice that Right . Most I know have took time and made sure to pick very nice firearms and not just buy something to own a gun .
 
Actually, there is empirical evidence for the rise of female gun ownership. The manufacturers have this data and I doubt they would release it to the general public.

About the time States started making it easier to get a Concealed Carry permit, you saw a more concerted effort on manufacturers to market guns to females. At first all "girl guns" were pink plastic, mainly pink. Then, some other colors were added. But, take a look at what EAA is doing. They are marketing heavily to women in their printed ads. They are also taking the color/design scheme to another level (other than simply "pink" solid) and targeting the female demographic.

The evidence for increased female ownership based on my observations are as follows:

1. large increase in female attendees at gun shows
2. Increase in female patrons of gun stores and gun ranges
3. Increase in gun designs targeted specifically for women
4. Increase in gun ads targeted specifically to women.

If women aren't buying, Manufactures wouldn't be spending the kind of money they are in manufacturing and advertising guns specifically to the female demographic.
 
Skans that certainly jives with my experience as well. But it's not really data, just individual observations. Don't get me wrong, I'm not denying it, just wondering how it can be determined empirically.

The NSSF data is collected on behalf of the manufacturers and FFL members using a survey conducted by an independent marketing survey firm. Their methodology is solid and therefore I think their data are the best on the demographics of ownership.

Another piece of observational data is the dramatic increase in advertising dollars in both the print and electronic media (the Sportsman's Channel for example) targeting women shooter's. The manufacturers are not going to spend advertising dollars on campaigns that aren't producing results. I assume the industry is keying off of the marketing data.

I think it was just about three years ago that Taurus came out with the ad for the Judge - woman in a darkened parking structure, scary moment, implied resolution. Now the ads specifically targeting women have grown exponentially. And not just for personal defense. More and more women seem to be entering the practical shooting sports as well with ads for women's shooting products and with women selling the products.

All indirect evidence, I'd just like to be able to look at it directly.

BTW, this poll is not to "collect data", its just my curiosity.
 
Been a member over 7 years. My GF and her daughter both own firearms and head to the range whenever we get the chance.
 
I went for another state CCW last year. The gy that gives the class is 3rd generation trainer.He said that since Obama's( what ever you want to call it ). The ladies have out numbered the men. He said his last class It was 300 and some females compared to 100 and sum males. Now his whole family does the training. So the conference room we were in ( men ) was just one of 5 rooms they had going on that day. I love the 2 for 1 classes
 
Member of the ovary club here. Where I currently live (NW WA), I see very few female shooters and the ones I do see tend to be very new to the sport. I have lived and worked in other areas where it is a much more concentrated group however, that may have something to do for the general disdain for firearms in this area although we do have a lot of male shooters.

I also work in the shooting industry which is why I started frequenting this and other forums (I only joined this one a few months ago, but I've been a regular on others for 5+ years). Probably wouldn't have been present on any shooting forums otherwise.
 
Ike, I do believe the manufactures have data on this - I don't expect them to release any of it to us as it is proprietary trade secret. My guess is that EAA/Tanfoglio probably has the best data on this. They seem to have the most sophisticated and comprehensive approach to targeting females.

Where do you or I get such data? Maybe look at a state's conceal carry permit issuance statistics over a number of years - I think this information is public record in most states.
 
I have been a shooter since late 1999 or early 2000, and you can see my 'joined' date for TFL off to the left.

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Can't remember when I became a moderator here, but it's been awhile.

In addition to the NSSF numbers (which you may be able to obtain via special request), you could check the numbers from Gallup. According to Gallup in 2005, 13 percent of all American women owned a gun. That number jumped to 23 percent in 2011. In hard numbers, that would translate to around 32 million women owning guns.

You could also check data specific to concealed carry permits. Not all states track that data or make it public, but some do. Florida has long published the percentage of carry permits issued to various demographic groups, including women, and I believe Texas makes their numbers public as well. In the past ten years, there's been a stark jump in the number of female permit holders.

Check the membership numbers of two nation-wide clubs for women who shoot: A Girl And A Gun Club, and The Well Armed Woman. The membership number rise in both clubs has been nothing short of meteoric since they came on the scene three or four years ago.

Finally, there's my own anecdotal evidence.

1) When I first began shooting handguns and taking defensive handgun classes, I was often the only woman in the class. Asking my mentors, Marty and Gila Hayes at the Firearms Academy of Seattle, about this, they told me that women made up roughly 10% of all their students, with much lower numbers in upper level classes. That was back in the early 2000s. Now in 2015, I'm one of four women on staff at FAS. In our entry-level classes, women comprise roughly 40% to 50% of each class, sometimes more. At the upper levels, the numbers begin to drop, down to the classic 10% in advanced classes. Given that the rise in female shooters is a relatively new phenomenon, this is about what I'd expect; there will be more women at the upper levels as new shooters come into their own and begin to learn more.

2) When I began traveling nationwide to teach classes under my own Cornered Cat LLC banner, one very well known firearms trainer sat down with me to talk about the training business. He told me that I would never be able to make a sustainable business teaching women-only classes for intermediate and advanced shooters because there just weren't that many women who would be serious about shooting. He also told me that nobody would ever respect me as a trainer if I kept teaching women-only classes, so he urged me to get away from that and focus on open enrollment classes.

In his world, my advisor was right: his own business numbers showed that he'd consistently drawn only 3% to 5% women in nearly every class he'd ever taught. And it is notoriously hard to get women to the range for serious training using traditional training business advertising models.

But I'm still in business three years later, and the classes I teach -- which are either coed or women-only depending on the choice of my hosts in each location -- have been quite popular. To this I attribute one simple fact: I don't look for my students via traditional means, by soliciting them from existing trainers and schools. Instead I reach out to the very enthusiastic women's shooting groups and clubs, which have been widely overlooked or disregarded by the serious-defensive-training world. In locations where the organizer relies on traditional ways to reach students, we don't do well. When we reach out to those groups, especially via social media outlets, and especially in places where the women leading the groups invite me to come, we do very well indeed.

As for respect? I'd like to think I earn it, every day I step on the range to do what I do. But I'm still aware it's an uphill battle. Few years back, at one location where I was teaching, the private club that hosted us assigned one of their board members to watch the class and -- the man carefully explained to me before we started the class -- expected that he would jump in to help me if it looked as though anything unsafe were happening or if it looked as if I needed a hand. Yup... that board assigned me a babysitter! :D So it's safe to say that I've seen the lack of respect that women only classes tend to garner.

That's not the end of the story, though.

We got the class going, I did my thing and got the students shooting from holsters, working around cover, shooting at various distances and speeds, shooting while moving, and all the usual skills. That guy (who was a nice person, btw) watched us very closely at first, but by the time a couple of hours had gone past, he was just poking his head into the bay from time to time to see how we were making out. At the end of the weekend, he came up and shook my hand, saying some very complimentary things about my teaching. Then he added, with earnest sincerity, "I never saw a woman who could teach a serious shooting class before!"

Not telling you this to whine or to brag, but just to say this: I'm not the first, I'm not alone, and I'm not a freak. I'm a woman who enjoys shooting and enjoys working with other women who enjoy shooting. When I began learning to shoot, I studied under Gila Hayes at FAS. Gila is a strong and competent woman who's quite capable of teaching serious shooting classes. Vicki Farnam of DTI can hold her own among the best of the best in the training business, and has been doing so for many many years. Lynn Givens provides that same quality to her students.

So even though I'm hardly alone and hardly the first, it's safe to say that the numbers are rising. There are many other women shooting, learning, and teaching at local schools who are developing the same set of skills. I meet them every time I step up to teach a class.

pax,

Kathy Jackson

PS To add: we use a shared household account on Amazon, and although we buy a lot of stuff from there, it's not where we buy gun related items. You'd never find me in that dataset!
 
I'm male lol,

But my mate is strongly pro gun. And really is a staunch Constitutionalist

She's a great lady, all the wonderful female attributes in personality, sweetness and appearance (I'm not suggesting any other female isn't)...everything, but my point is this; the average person wouldn't peg her as a "gun nut"

She laughs at the way "Constitutionslist" is being stereotyped.
 
Also -- although Lott didn't specifically track the number of women with carry permits, there's a pretty good list of state data sources in his 2014 report, Concealed Carry Permit Holders Across the United States. [pdf link]

You should be able to use those sources to dig out some of the numbers you're after.

pax
 
Ike666,

One more thought. You may want to suggest to your student that she reach out to TFL's own Dr. Glenn Meyer, who has a pretty good treasure trove of resources that might help her complete her study.

pax
 
I'm male, and have been a member for just over 2 years. My ladyfriend is a gun owner, and shoots, but isn't a member here.
 
Thanks for all the leads and suggestions. The Pew Center data was really useful.

NSSF currently has their study on the Research page, and I'll steer the student to make that request.

Pax, thanks for your thoughts. Again, all this comports well with my anecdotal experience and the little empirical evidence that is out there.

I was fortunate enough to get the last release of Virginia's CHP data before the law forbade it's release (it probably helps that I work for the VSP). While I like John Lott's approach, I really prefer Gary Kleck's perspective (less emotional, better methodologically).

I'll dig up my CHP data (its been awhile) and see what that tells me. However, it was collected before the bulk of the big surge in ownership.
 
As Kathy indicated, you can see from the date to the left how long each respondent has been a member here - mine indicates a bit over 6 years.

I've been a firearms owner and active shooter since about 1966, when I turned 18 and purchased my first firearm (still have it, along with "just a few" more), and an occasional shooter about 10 years longer than that.

I'm one of several pistol instructors at my gun club, where we teach a number of different NRA-certified courses each year and also host "Women on Target" and "Try a Handgun" events for members and the general public. About half of our certified instructors are women, and although the majority of members and shooters are male it's not at all unusual to see women at the ranges. Women unaccompanied by a male shooter, however, remain rare. Women are always strongly represented in our classes, at times approaching 50% or more of the students, although again most, not all, are attending with husbands or boyfriends. I haven't been involved in instructing long enough to say if this is a difference from previous years.
 
Found it a bit strange

Yeah, kinda questioned when I had to vote whether I was male or female. Thought I had that settled somewhere around 70 years ago,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,hehehe
 
I'm a female and I've been a member around here for a couple of years. It's a bit testosterone top-heavy so I don't post as much as the guys do.
I've had a gun in my hand since I was 8 or 9 years old.

I hold a BS in Justice & Public Safety and a Master's in Law Enforcement Adminsitration. I currently work for the Federal Gov't and I carry on and off the job 24/7, unless I'm in bed or the shower and even then my gun is within reach.

I've trained professionally for several years and also hold a few of the token NRA Instructor Certs.
I train mostly in defensive shooting and CQB.

And Kathy Jackson's book, The Cornered Cat, is one of my all time favorites. I purchased it about 3 years ago and it still sits out next to my bed. Excellent book.
 
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