Check out this story about a state-supported "educational" gathering for kids as young as 12. This story is important not only because of the shocking material in the seminar, but the unconstitutional tactics used to harass those who tried to expose it. www.massnews.com/fistrep.htm
Massachusetts Sex Ed. Scandal -- Must Be Read To Be Believed
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Juan Hunt Greer
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Once upon a time, I would have only believed this about S.F. bay area! These days??? SHEESH!!!!!
crankshaft
An article like that, and people wonder WHY I'm paranoid?
crankshaft
An article like that, and people wonder WHY I'm paranoid?
Mike Irwin
Staff
I got through 3 paragraphs before I became too ill to continue.
I was in a debate with a coworker as to whether homosexuality is being taught as being OK, or even as a preferred, lifestyle.
She's going to have e-mail in the morning.
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Smith & Wesson is dead to me.
If you want a Smith & Wesson, buy USED!
I was in a debate with a coworker as to whether homosexuality is being taught as being OK, or even as a preferred, lifestyle.
She's going to have e-mail in the morning.
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Smith & Wesson is dead to me.
If you want a Smith & Wesson, buy USED!
If you think this is OK, then I fear that the gun issue is long gone. How can your rights be secure when this goes on in the Public schools? Maybe instead of teaching about "fisting", they could invest a little time in Articles 1-7, and then the Amendments, and then to wrap it up, maybe the DOI. I used to hear the typical redneck remark about how Rome collapsed over this kind of stuff, but now I'm not so sure that I doubt them anymore.
Whoa! Check this quote: <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>1) Focus on Violence Prevention. Always go back to the issues of safety to explain why Gay/Straight Alliances need to be formed. "Violence helps us!" he said. [/quote]
* <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>A workshop about "The Religious Wrong" was conducted by gay activist Leif Mitchell at "Fistgate," where state teachers taught graphic sex to teenagers and teachers from across Massachusetts.
Mitchell is the Community Educator/Trainer for Planned Parenthood of Connecticut and he is on the National board of GLSEN. He trains teachers and children about sex education in the classroom and how to integrate homosexuality into the curriculum of public schools.[/quote]
Pretty scary stuff there. Looking beyond the sexual orientation issue, what we have is a perfect example of a zealot, using an issue to hide behind, all the while promoting his own personal agenda. The kids are being used as mere pawns. It makes you wonder how much of this is going on with the other high profile (gun control ala MMM and drunk drivers ala MADD) issue oriented agendas. Even though there is little or no gun content to this particular article, the promotion of violence in schools can't be glossed over.
* <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>A workshop about "The Religious Wrong" was conducted by gay activist Leif Mitchell at "Fistgate," where state teachers taught graphic sex to teenagers and teachers from across Massachusetts.
Mitchell is the Community Educator/Trainer for Planned Parenthood of Connecticut and he is on the National board of GLSEN. He trains teachers and children about sex education in the classroom and how to integrate homosexuality into the curriculum of public schools.[/quote]
Pretty scary stuff there. Looking beyond the sexual orientation issue, what we have is a perfect example of a zealot, using an issue to hide behind, all the while promoting his own personal agenda. The kids are being used as mere pawns. It makes you wonder how much of this is going on with the other high profile (gun control ala MMM and drunk drivers ala MADD) issue oriented agendas. Even though there is little or no gun content to this particular article, the promotion of violence in schools can't be glossed over.
Furious! 
I’m not a religious person. Consenting adults can do danged near anything
with and among (!) other consenting adults. However, these perverts are
messing with minors! May they suffer what is described in Genesis 19, Luke
17, and Jude 1. (Omitted here to avoid offending our non-Christian readers.)
How does this relate to guns?
1) It’s a civil liberties issue. There are other such issues which divide us, but I would be surprised if 1% of us would support mandatory training in “fisting” (as THEY describe it), etc.
2) If the government can take away the Right of parents to determine their
religious beliefs and morale standards, the government has become too
strong. It’s time to give these anti-Constitutional demagogues a First
Amendment reality check. They may have the right to say whatever they
want. They do NOT have the right to FORCE children to study it and
participate in it as part of the "achievements" required to be graduated from high school.
Some years ago, Texas Governor Ann Richards advocated a mandatory school
curriculum which would start with kindergartners and climaxed with high school
seniors, explaining and (to some extent) demonstrating the “joys” and
“benefits” of homosexuality, lesbianism, fornication, adultery, self and mutual
masturbation, etc.
Most parents in Texas considered this to be a program of philosophical filth to
be forced upon their children against the will of both the parents and the
kids.
Shortly after that, Gov. Richards said that Texans would NEVER have the
right to vote on a concealed handgun bill. She would see to it! Most Texans,
whether they believe in CCW or not, considered it tyrannical for her to
prevent this from being voted upon.
George W. Bush came along. He promised to kill the “porno program” and
promised to sign a reasonable CHL bill if it hit his desk.
That is why I say “My dog, Spot” (with the same two promises) could
have become Governor of Texas. Dubya didn’t “win” the election.
Ann (Don’t Let Annie Get Your Guns) Richards handed the election to him on a silver
platter. I despise that “woman with all the hair”!
This is not meant to insult George Bush so don’t get on my case about it.
He’s been a good governor. But compared to Ann Richards, Howdy Doody
would have been an improvement.
We get the leadership we permit.
It’s time for Massachusetts to clean out their gene pool.
To the ballot box, folks!
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Either you believe in the Second Amendment or you don't.
Stick it to 'em! RKBA!
[This message has been edited by Dennis (edited October 23, 2000).]
I’m not a religious person. Consenting adults can do danged near anything
with and among (!) other consenting adults. However, these perverts are
messing with minors! May they suffer what is described in Genesis 19, Luke
17, and Jude 1. (Omitted here to avoid offending our non-Christian readers.)
How does this relate to guns?
1) It’s a civil liberties issue. There are other such issues which divide us, but I would be surprised if 1% of us would support mandatory training in “fisting” (as THEY describe it), etc.
2) If the government can take away the Right of parents to determine their
religious beliefs and morale standards, the government has become too
strong. It’s time to give these anti-Constitutional demagogues a First
Amendment reality check. They may have the right to say whatever they
want. They do NOT have the right to FORCE children to study it and
participate in it as part of the "achievements" required to be graduated from high school.
Some years ago, Texas Governor Ann Richards advocated a mandatory school
curriculum which would start with kindergartners and climaxed with high school
seniors, explaining and (to some extent) demonstrating the “joys” and
“benefits” of homosexuality, lesbianism, fornication, adultery, self and mutual
masturbation, etc.
Most parents in Texas considered this to be a program of philosophical filth to
be forced upon their children against the will of both the parents and the
kids.
Shortly after that, Gov. Richards said that Texans would NEVER have the
right to vote on a concealed handgun bill. She would see to it! Most Texans,
whether they believe in CCW or not, considered it tyrannical for her to
prevent this from being voted upon.
George W. Bush came along. He promised to kill the “porno program” and
promised to sign a reasonable CHL bill if it hit his desk.
That is why I say “My dog, Spot” (with the same two promises) could
have become Governor of Texas. Dubya didn’t “win” the election.
Ann (Don’t Let Annie Get Your Guns) Richards handed the election to him on a silver
platter. I despise that “woman with all the hair”!
This is not meant to insult George Bush so don’t get on my case about it.
He’s been a good governor. But compared to Ann Richards, Howdy Doody
would have been an improvement.
We get the leadership we permit.
It’s time for Massachusetts to clean out their gene pool.
To the ballot box, folks!
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Either you believe in the Second Amendment or you don't.
Stick it to 'em! RKBA!
[This message has been edited by Dennis (edited October 23, 2000).]
Dennis,
" If the government can take away the Right of parents to determine their religious beliefs and morale standards, the government has become too strong. It's time to give these anti-Constitutional demagogues a First Amendment reality check. They may have the right to say whatever they want. They do NOT have the right to FORCE children to study it and participate in it as part of the "achievements" required to be graduated from high school."
AMEN Jerry
" If the government can take away the Right of parents to determine their religious beliefs and morale standards, the government has become too strong. It's time to give these anti-Constitutional demagogues a First Amendment reality check. They may have the right to say whatever they want. They do NOT have the right to FORCE children to study it and participate in it as part of the "achievements" required to be graduated from high school."
AMEN Jerry
Keiller TN
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Well said, Dennis.
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"Unless the Lord builds the house, they labour in vain that build it:
except the Lord guards the city, the watchman stays awake in vain." (Psalm 127:1)
The Second Amendment rights have not kept pace with the First.
"Freedom is given to the human conditionally, in the assumption of his constant religious responsibility."
(Alexander Solzhenitzyn)
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"Unless the Lord builds the house, they labour in vain that build it:
except the Lord guards the city, the watchman stays awake in vain." (Psalm 127:1)
The Second Amendment rights have not kept pace with the First.
"Freedom is given to the human conditionally, in the assumption of his constant religious responsibility."
(Alexander Solzhenitzyn)
George Hill
Staff Alumnus
This thread is on hold.
Admins will discuss the value of its continuation in a Board Meeting.
Admins will discuss the value of its continuation in a Board Meeting.
All,
Upon reflection, and with the help of the calmer minds of the rest of the
Staff, I see that I have broken the Forum policy which I have been struggling
to enforce so rigidly.
This is a civil rights subject. However, it leads to generalizations (both
inaccurate and untrue) which divide us and impair our effort to restore our
Right to Keep and Bear Arms.
Therefore:
- I apologize for not closing this thread immediately.
- I apologize for my post, which surely some Members may find
inflammatory.
- GRD, you warned me and I was too hot to take the hint. Thanks for the
try.
- Duck hunt, right on! RKBA!
- Thanks to George for giving me some breathing time.
Phred, no offense, but this thread is closed.
All,
Take the topic elsewhere - perhaps the Range House.
Dennis
Upon reflection, and with the help of the calmer minds of the rest of the
Staff, I see that I have broken the Forum policy which I have been struggling
to enforce so rigidly.
This is a civil rights subject. However, it leads to generalizations (both
inaccurate and untrue) which divide us and impair our effort to restore our
Right to Keep and Bear Arms.
Therefore:
- I apologize for not closing this thread immediately.
- I apologize for my post, which surely some Members may find
inflammatory.
- GRD, you warned me and I was too hot to take the hint. Thanks for the
try.
- Duck hunt, right on! RKBA!
- Thanks to George for giving me some breathing time.
Phred, no offense, but this thread is closed.
All,
Take the topic elsewhere - perhaps the Range House.
Dennis
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