Mass Shooting Stats: Five Thirty-Eight

I read somewhere the overall gun deaths are down, but are up in gunfree zones.
Media ignores the obvious implication.
 
Here's something to consider, when they talk of mass shootings being a result of guns being "so easy to get"...

The guns (in this case "assault weapons") either in their exact present form or in a very similar form have been available on the market since the 1960s, some designs even earlier.

Guns were even EASIER TO GET BACK THEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Virtually every town in the USA has a car dealer, most have several, some have dozens, but there has been no significant increase in people being deliberately run over. And there no (criminal) background check to buy a car, just the credit and insurance. You don't even need to have a valid driver's license to BUY a car. You need one to drive it home, but you don't have to have one to BUY it.

The root cause of the problem is not the guns, it is the WILLINGNESS of people to shoot other people for fun and profit. That is different today than it used to be. Why??

There are lots of possible reasons, covering all kinds of things, from education to child raising, to morals and values, religion, and many other things.

One thing that used to be accepted was that if you killed someone and got caught, you got the rope, or the chair, or the gas chamber, usually within a couple years, if not within a few months.

That doesn't seem to be much of a factor these days. The mass killers we see today do not seem to fear their own death, some seem to seek it. And, apparently they aren't bothered much by the thought of life in prison, either.

I don't know why they do it, nor, outside of idle curiosity, do I care why they do it. I have not entirely ruled out demonic possession as a possible reason, after all, I see it on TV all the time! :rolleyes:

(sarcasm intentional)
 
44 amp.

The only difference now is that we have a whole industry geared to sensationalizing anything that they can simply to get ratings. All one has to do is take a short step back into history when the assault weapon of choice was the Colt Peacemaker and a Winchester or Henry carbine.

The difference today is mass media.
 
I think the majority of people aren't as intelligent as they should be either. Something tells me when the beginning era of the M16 and AK47 started people were smarter. Probably less knew how to read and write but the ones that did probably didn't use spell check. The ones that knew how to count didn't choose a calculator instead either I'm sure. They also didn't constantly check on social media to see what cool thing everyone was doing, and the news didn't twist things as much. I'm not a big fan of the movie but I see the world to strive to be like the modern world in Idiocracy. Or even like it is in Demolition Man. We are so intelligent we've made ourselves dumb. We have the greatest advantages with technology and yet instead of using it to our advantage most of us use it to figure out how to get by with as little as possible. I think that's the world's biggest problem. It's too lazy. Heck most people don't even have to choose what they they like, just mimick someone famous's choices. If people opened their eyes the world would be a different place.
 
Two reasons that I see.

#1 if you look at any violent crime, Not just gun crime. The only difference in those instances is that they chose to use a fire arm.
Any way if you look at each case, there is almost always one fact that ties them together. Almost all have multiple violent acts and felonies on their records.
That means the Government had the chance to protect the public and prevent the next indecent and they fail to do so.

#2 regarding mental illness. In the old days people with serious mental health issues would be put in a mental hospital.
Its been reported that these were not good places for the patients to be. Lots of failures and abuse.
One benefit for society. They were there and not out here.
So instead of improving them. They closed them. Putting all these people on the street.
So now not only do they not get good care. They are out here among us.

Fix those two issue and we are not even having a gun debate. Hmmmm makes you wonder who it serves to have all these issues???
 
I read somewhere the overall gun deaths are down, but are up in gunfree zones.
Media ignores the obvious implication.
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Hmm, it seems to me that gun ownership likes to ignore mass shootings not in gun-free zones and often split hairs to come up for reasons why mass shootings not in gun-free zones should not be tallied. "Mass shooting" is an FBI definition of numbers within an event, not of situational parameters/conditions (rampage, domestic, drug, gang, drive-by, work place, mental, robbery, zoning, etc.), and yet if the reason can be tied back to causes of domestic violence, drugs, or gangs, for example, the mass shootings are apt to be dismissed as not being mass shootings.

There may be more than one type of mass shooting, no argument there, but to arbitrarily decide that only certain types of mass shootings count as mass shootings while at the same time discounting others also means the ignoring of obvious implications.

We focus on the big, news grabbing national headlines, usually those where the killer(s) is known (which results in lots of follow-up stories), but we usually ignore or are ignorant of many of the news-local mass shootings, especially unsolved events that do not make the national press as a lead story.

I do think it is very safe to say that many of the big national events (certainly not all), especially rampage shootings do occur in gun-free zones, but they are only a small number of the total events that occur.

http://shootingtracker.com/wiki/Mass_Shootings_in_2015
 
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