Maryland About to pass Built in Lock requirement

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Master Blaster

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Thats right folks while we were all cursing S&W's sellout the governor of Maryland has just about succeded in passing a law which would require an internal hammerlock on all handguns sold in Maryland after 2003.

The republicans who were going to fillibuster to block the bill have conceded defeat.

I wonder if this bill also contains the magazine capacity limits etc similar to the S&W agreement.

If passed in many states this type of bill would force gun makers to make changes or face losing the civilian market.


[This message has been edited by Master Blaster (edited March 26, 2000).]
 
Originally posted by Ezeckial:
Maryland is a very liberal state (east coast version of California).

To get this bill through, Commisar Glendenning did drop the "smart gun" requirements.
The hammer lock may not be too bad. It's already used by Taurus (don't lose that little hex wrench) and should be fairly easily adaptable by other manufacturers (especially on revolvers) at a fairly low cost.
Considering Glendenning and his leftist Attorney General original stated intent was to ban handguns, this is probably the best we're going to see. I didn't read about any magazine limitations in this bill.
I believe one Republican tried to add a "shall issue" CCW amendment to the bill. Alas, that was defeated.

You know, the eastern shore of Maryland has been considering succession for years...we'd welcome them to the Commonwealth of Pensylvania. Maybe this will add more fuel to their fire.



[This message has been edited by Ezeckial (edited March 26, 2000).]
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Yea, H&K already has an internal slide lock that is activated with a tool used through the mag well. Doesn't mean you have to use it though :)
 
Solution to Internal Lock Features.
Lock the thing open or "ON", and then peen the device in that position so it cannot be "Closed". Throw away the key nad carry on as if it wasn't there.

Gabe Suarez

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Gabe Suarez
The HALO Group
www.thehalogroup.com
 
Or you all can just move to Arizona. :) :) Let the commies live in their filth,and crime.

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BOYCOTT SMITH AND WESSON!!!!!
The only justice for a traitor is at the end of a rope!!!!
Off my meds (quit smoking), armed to the teeth, and loose on an unsuspecting society!!!
 
> [Relayed from the MDRKBA list's weekend report.]
>
>As we go into the new week, it's important that you help your teams sort
>out what has happened and also -- most important -- focus on the mission
>to kill the Governor's gun grab. This certainly is a discouraging time
>for our community: news reports about a "compromise" that "both sides can
>live with" only rub the wounds raw, and misinformation is already being
>spread. Help your teams to understand, but don't let the bleak situation
>get in the way of stop them from doing what needs to be done. We are very
>likely beat, but naturally we can never give up.
>
>WHAT HAPPENED
>
>The movers and shakers behind this bill first made their own deal about what
>to ram through, then they proceeded accordingly. Senators Miller and Baker,
>the Governor's lobbyist (Joe Bryce) and Beretta's lobbyist (Gerry Evans)
>signed off and then Miller set things in motion. They and their crew
>yanked the administration bill to the floor, by brute force and willingness
>to abandon their own Senate rules. By late thursday, Senate opponents were
>deep into preparations to do battle, preparing amendments and fine tuning
>plans for how and when to begin the filibuster. We had just enough support
>to sustain a filibuster. It would be a hard row to hoe, but that is our lot
>as gunowners in Maryland.
>
>It is typical for opponents of a bill to select one legislator to take the
>lead on behalf of the group, and Senator Tim Ferguson assumed this rule on
>the gun bill. At a strategy session early friday morning, he arrived to
>drop his bombshell: without telling any ahead of time, he had proposed his
>own deal to the governor, a deal which was quickly accepted.
>
>In return for little, if anything, for gun owners, Ferguson promised our side
>would not filibuster, nor try to amend the bill, nor even give extended debate
>on the matter.
>
>It's fair to say that most opponents who heard this bombshell were horrified
>friday morning. Frankly, nobody thought that freedom to speak for the group
>would be seen as freedom to capitulate for the group. The only clue we have
>about his motive is in his public statement (made in the lobby during a 5 min
>recess while working on this bill) that gunowners have "failed to be there
>for [him]" and hadn't "even attend[ed] $25 chicken dinner fund raisers." His
>statements seem both disingenuous and highly inappropriate to link to liberty
>issues, but that will be a matter for him to sort out with his constituents.
>
>Ferguson got two amendments:
>1. The Handgun Roster Board will be expanded by two slots.
>2. The language concerning firearm safety mandates was modified.
>
>We're not entirely certain where #1 came from. Nobody from our team ever
>suggested it, and the closest anyone came to mentioning this in testimony
>had to do with the balance of appointments in the new commissions proposed
>by the governor to study smart guns. (Smart guns, as you know, were dropped
>in the Baker/Miller/Glendening/Beretta deal, well before our side had a shot
>at seeing the language.) The best we can guess at this time is that this was
>suggested by Miller as a way to help Ferguson muddy the water, to let him
>tell people in the firearms community that he "got something".
>
>Concerning #2, we were definitely interested in repair of the safety mandate
>language. The original proposal channeled handgun buyers through the state
>for a class, and this bottleneck presented the great likelihood that MSP may
>stop handgun sales simply by stopping the class. (It also represents a new
>way for MSP to build databases on students ... a de facto licensing idea they
>did not get in the other bill.) Much of our attention had been focused on
>how to introduce other valid ways for someone to meet the requirement.
>
>Ferguson's surprise language was drafted by the administration, and he
>was so intent on helping Miller that when the text was brought to the floor,
>he refused to ask for even a one hour lay over in order to give time for us
>to study it. (This hour is guaranteed by the rules had he wanted it but of
>course we know how rules are treated in the senate now.) Once the dust had
>settled and our side had a chance to read the language, we found that none
>of what he "fought for" has the desired effect.
>
>That's right. Our friendly senators were hoodwinked.
>
>The new language only reads such that the commission may approve certain
>outside individuals to teach the commission's course. Whatever that turns
>out to be. And because the mandate kicks in before the commission must be
>formed, we'll have a couple months in Maryland when technically it may be
>impossible to buy a handgun legally.
>
>We've heard talk about changes in the definition of the integrated safety
>devices that will somehow help us. No amendments dealt with this language,
>so we are unsure what basis such rumormongering has. Most likely this is
>more whistling in the dark by someone concerned about the truth spreading
>back in his home district.
>
>Our friendly senators have really been hung out to dry by this process. A
>deal is a deal, even if made on their behalf by someone who believes Mike
>Miller can do more for him than can constituents. Trying to halt the bill
>on third reader (monday) will not succeed for no other reason than senators
>we had lined up for filibuster before won't want to be a part of something
>seen as going back on their word.
>
>HERE'S WHAT TO DO
>
>With the unprecedented loss in the Senate, our attention must focus on
>drawing down more grassroots feedback to Delegates who will be considering
>this bill VERY shortly. You already have the membership for House Judiciary
>Committee. USE IT. Appended is the text for the latest postcard alert which
>went out accordingly.
>
>Hang in there. We have two weeks remaining in the Session, plenty enough
>time for the good Lord to bless us with a victory if we do our part!
>
>-- Jim
>
>===========================================================================
>
>Governor Glendening just perverted General Assembly rules to drive a new gun
>control grab bag through the Senate in Annapolis. He's helping his buddy Bill
>Clinton build momentum for more national gun controls. Now the House of
>Delegates is being ordered to pass Glendening's bill, which bans sale of
>handguns that don't have internal locks, and prohibits you from buying your
>gun until you prove to the State Police you have passed a state-mandated class
>that bureaurats get to make up later.
>
>The only legislator left with enough clout to slow this down is Speaker of the
>House Casper Taylor. He has only two choices: Use the power of his office to
>protect liberty, or use it to force his House of Delegates to pass the Clinton
>/Glendening plan as dictated to him. (In 1996's gun grab, he drove Delegates
>to back Glendening's bill, then once he had enough votes to pass it, voted
>"no" himself and told folks back home he was pro gun.)
>
>Time is short! Call Cas Taylor today at 800 492 7122, ext. 3800, and ask him
>to protect our freedom! (Call all of your legislators toll free at that number,
>and ask them the same thing!)
 
The Maryland State Senate has passed a bill that would make your state the
>first in the nation to require built-in locks on all new handguns. The
>legislation will now be sent to the Maryland House of Delegates.
>
>Vote.com is holding a special online referendum on the question, Should
>the State of Maryland Require Built-in Locks on New Handguns? The vote
>can be found at http://www.vote.com/vote/6324261/ and all votes will be
>sent directly to Gov. Parris N. Glendening.
>
>There are strong opinions on both sides of this issue. If you have a
>point of view on handgun locks, we encourage you to log on to
>http://www.vote.com/vote/6324261/ and make your vote count.
>
 
Senator "Benedict" Ferguson Does It Again!

Gun Owners of America E-Mail/FAX Alert
8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102, Springfield, VA 22151
Phone: 703-321-8585 / FAX: 703-321-8408 http://www.gunowners.org

March 28, 2000

Dear Maryland Gun Owner,

Once again Senator Tim Ferguson (R-4) perpetrated "the murder" of a
filibuster.

He was aided and abetted by numerous other so-called "pro-gun"
Senators who didn't have the courage to stand up to the Senate
bosses and Governor Glendening.

Senator Larry Haines (R-5) is one who especially headed for the tall
grass and refused to say anything to keep the filibuster alive.

A filibuster is essentially talking against a bill to forestall a
vote, forever if possible.

A filibuster is maintained as long as one member "has the floor" and
"yields" only to other members who share his or her opposition to
the bill being filibustered. Cloture is a vote to shut off debate
and thus allows a vote on the bill.

If the vote on "cloture" lacks sufficient numbers -- in Maryland it
takes 32 Senators -- then there can be no vote to pass the bill.

On the floor of the Senate in Annapolis last night Senator Tim
Ferguson got the floor, and then gave it to Senate President Mike
Miller, thus avoiding a vote on cloture. Miller then called the
vote to pass the bill. It passed 26 to 21.

GOA supported a filibuster led by Senator Mooney after Senator
Ferguson "chickened out" on Friday and cut a deal to pass SB 211, a
vicious anti-gun bill.

Thanks should go to Senator Mooney (R-3), Senator Jacobs R-34) and
Senator Harris (R-9) who were filibustering.

In a move that was either stupid or duplicitous, Senator Colburn
(R-37) was given the floor, spoke briefly, and then gave the floor
to Senator Ferguson. As stated above, Ferguson then gave the floor
to Senate President Mike Miller.

Ferguson's action forfeited a recorded vote on cloture. But he, and
any other "pro-gun" Senator who refused to "talk" against the bill
(i.e. join the filibuster), is guilty of selling out your rights and
safety.

Action now turns to the House.

Please begin contacting your delegate(s). Oppose SB 211 in any
form.

The main switch board numbers are:

From Baltimore/Annapolis 410-841+Ext. # / FAX 410-946-5075
From Prince George's/Montgomery 301-858+Ext. # / FAX 301-970-5075
From all other areas in MD 1-800-492-7122 + Ext. #

If you don't know who your delegates are, call 301-858-3000 and ask
for help. Or, go to this address on the web:
http://archive2.mdarchives.state.md.us/msa/who_reps/html/who_reps.ht
ml

No matter what anyone tells you, a Senator's refusal to join the
filibuster was an act of surrender to the Governor and of your
rights.

The vote on final passage was empty posturing.

Compromise is where your rights and safety die.

Any?s Call GOA / Guns Save Lives


Maryland State Senate Roster

E-mail addresses at: http://www.mlis.state.md.us

District maps at: http://webdb.mdarchives.state.md.us/msa/who_reps/html/legmaps.html

* These Senators should have been helping with the filibuster.
+ These Senators did lead the filibuster
? What was he thinking?


Name Dist Ext. #

* Astle John C. 030 3578
* Baker Walter M. 036 3639
Blount Clarence W. 041 3697
* Bromwell Thomas L. 008 3620
? Colburn Richard F. 037 3590
* Collins Michael J. 006 3642
* Conway Joan Carter 043 3145
Currie Ulysses 025 3127
DeGrange Sr James E. 032 3593
Della Jr George W. 047 3600
Dorman Arthur 021 3141
* Dyson Roy P. 029 3673
Exum Nathaniel 024 3148
* Ferguson Timothy R. 004 3704
Forehand Jennie M. 017 3134
Frosh Brian E. 016 3124
Green Leo E. 023 3631
* Hafer John J. 001 3565
* Haines Larry E. 005 3683
+ Harris Andrew P. 009 3706
Hoffman Barbara A. 042 3648
* Hogan Patrick J. 039 3686
Hollinger Paula C. 011 3131
* Hooper J. Robert 035 3603
Hughes Ralph M. 040 3656
+ Jacobs Nancy 034 3158
* Jimeno Philip C. 031 3658
Kasemeyer Edward J. 012 3653
Kelley Delores G. 010 3606
Lawlah Gloria G. 026 3092
* Madden Martin G. 013 3572
* McCabe Christopher J. 014 3671
McFadden Nathaniel J. 045 3165
* Middleton Thomas M. 028 3616
Miller Jr Thomas V. Mike 027 3700
Mitchell IV Clarence M. 044 3612
+ Mooney Alex X. 003 3575
* Munson Donald F. 002 3609
* Neall Robert R. 033 3568
Pinsky Paul G. 022 3155
* Roesser Jean W. 015 3169
Ruben Ida G. 020 3634
Sfikas Perry 046 3598
* Stoltzfus J. Lowell 038 3645
* Stone Jr Norman R. 007 3587
Teitelbaum Leonard H. 019 3151
Van Hollen Jr Christopher 018 3137

From Baltimore/Annapolis 410-841+Ext. # / FAX 410-946-5075
From Prince George's/Montgomery 301-858+Ext. # / FAX 301-970-5075
From all other areas in MD 1-800-492-7122 + Ext. #
 
>From Delegates Carmen Amedori and Joseph Getty:

Well, we're going to hear the Senate Bill in our committee on
Friday. The
Chairman decided that he would give the "new version" a hearing, both
sides.
Vice Chair Doory tried to get him commit to limit the sides, but he has
not,
yet. We will vote on the bill Friday night -- We hope to work our
strategy
to kill this bad bill. Also, the NRA will be running commercials --
national and local --showcasing the Gov trying to use and deactivate the
gun
locks. If you haven't seen it, it is a hoot. He can't get the lock
opened
and a cop has to assist him. I think the tagline is going to be
something
to the order of

"Will the state provide you with a Cop for your lock?"

also at the end will be the phone number to the Speaker's Office with a
message to call him. Hopefully NRA members across the country will
unite in
this effort. These commercials are supposed to run starting on
Thursday.
We need to bring all the forces together to put the pressure on the
Speaker
and the Gov. Call your out-of-state friends and tell them to call at

1-410-841-3800 (Speaker Cas Taylor)
mailto:casper_taylor@house.state.md.us

Urge them to call the Speaker and tell him to STOP this BAD BILL NOW

Thanks for your help and support.

Delegate Carmen Amedori
Delegate Joe Getty

--
John H. Josselyn, Legislative Vice President
Associated Gun Clubs of Baltimore, Inc.
P. O. Box 20102
Towson, Maryland 21284-0102
410-296-3947 (phone & fax)
E mailto:agcbalto@bcpl.net
 
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