Marlin 45-70

You may have different standards.
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My standards are these... in case you missed the link.

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Since I actually HAVE one (a RemLin 45-70 GBL), I'll weigh in.
http://www.marlinowners.com/forum/45...ml#post1065588

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In the FWIW column: I picked up a Remlim GBL about two months ago. (actually May`12 now)

- I like the laminate stock work they did (so did several of the "old guys" amongst my Range Officers)
- I like the oversize lever loop design (as compared to my 39A and `94)
- I like the absolutely flawless feeding of those big 45-70 cases.... smoothest I've ever felt... fast or slow
- I wasn't too keen on the 8½ lb trigger, so I HappyTriggered & re main-springed it to 3½
- The stock iron sights weren't too bad, but I put a WilliamsFP peep on it to establish load preferences.
- (then my mid 60's eyes finally said "...put a lo-pwr Leupold on it, stupid...."

- Finally, I like the way it puts lead (real lead) downrange:

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Other than the above, I have no strong opinion.

(Well.... other than I have two more (`94s) that also say Marlin is back)

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Doggone it... Can't resist.
See:http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=554229

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I'm glad to hear more and more reports of good new Marlins. And just for the record, I had pre-64 M94 with sights that were tilted to the left and couple of new 444 Marlins with cracked stocks were the tang bolt goes thru. The 444's were examined in my local gun store before finally buying the 3rd and last one, circa 1980, well before Remington got involved.
 
Modern 45-70 loads do make it a legitimate big game round, but with recoil far exceeding 375 mag.
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I load a 45-70 with a 400 grain bullet to 1800 fps. It's a stout load and there's plenty of recoil, but it's nothing like a 375 Mag. The recoil is a slow push (OK, a big slow push), but you can roll with it. A 375 is big and fast and much less pleasant.
 
My standards are these... in case you missed the link.
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Yeah, I know. You were pretty clear.

My standards are that I don't buy from companies that have such contempt for the customer that they intentionally sell defective guns. Once a company does that, they've shown their true colors and I won't have any more to do with them. Remington has done it at least twice - both selling known-broken Marlins and with their defective 700 bolt rifles. In the case of the bolt guns, quite a few people have died in accidents traced back to the defects. Remington has admitted in court that 100% of all 700s made since the beginning of time are potentially defective and require repair.

I'll next consider Remington & Marlin for a purchase when and if they change ownership and the new owners first fix the problems, second make a full accounting of and provide compensation for the harm they've caused, and third apologize. I'm not holding my breath.
 
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and quite a few of thoses rifles triggers were monkeyed with by their owners, with out knowing how it was to be adjusted. then you have the nitwits who don,t obey the simple rules of safety while handeling any firearm. in 61 years of hunting and shooting i have seem more AD,s with lever actions and single barreled shotguns and not one with a remington rifle and i have owned well over 50 and still own 10. does this mean their were no AD,s with remington rifles?-NO, but if you take the nitwit and the i have to have a 2lb trigger crowd out of the number it goes down even more and with the number of 700 rem made over the last 50 years or so, you stand a better chance choking to death on a piece of meat at supper. as with any firearm you buy, look it over and if it is not what you think it should be, don,t buy it. eastbank.
 
A wonderful cartridge , effective on game of various sizes , accurate too.Want less recoil ? use a 300 grain bullet. I'm keeping mine , a Miroku Browning , the deer have never complained :p
 
They make cowboy loads for 45-70, or you can load your own for fun low recoil shooting. I like to dismantle thrown away computer pallets with my Marlin guide gun. That's about as good as plinking gets.

Does anyone make sabot bullets or ammo for 45-70? That would add yet more versatility.
 
Absolutely the 45-70 has had a resurgence in the market place. But that will eventually pass and it will slip into obsolescence~~ again. Once that happens there will be those who pop up and again promote its using and as usual others will listen and just have to have a 45-70 something or another. "Kind of a monkey see monkey do comradery in our shooter ranks.

30-30 has always been a handy dandy little cartridge. Those who think the 30-30 is on the cusp of obsolescence. I got some news for them fellers. The 30-30 cartridge and firearms to accommodate will still be made well beyond the life span of those who think not.

As far as those stainless steel long gun. I've seen stainless rusty guns due to their owners thinking such metal doesn't require up-keep. WRONG!! Then again in my speculating. As I come to believe. If one is found of composite /plastic or (heavier) laminated stocks. And promote there use over wood. Yup!! those fellows are more likely to own a stainless made long gun.

My advice.

Stick with you're original plan. Buy a littl' 30-30. There are just so many around still being used. "Cheap ammo makes it fun to shoot"

Frankly: "30-30 ammo and its components for. Will never ever cease being made." Those who differ in thought. That's their prerogative."
 
Absolutely the 45-70 has had a resurgence in the market place. But that will eventually pass and it will slip into obsolescence~~ again.
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That seems very unlikely. As long as the great bears exist, it will be popular. If the .45-70 didn't exist, we'd be re-inventing it.
 
If the 444 Marlin and 450 Marlin didn't cause the 45-70's demise then good luck finding something that will.
 
To be fair, both are less capable.

The .45-70 is in a nice spot. Most people don't WANT more even for bears - .45-90, .50-110, .475 Turnbull and .450 Alaskan are niche cartridges beacuse without a carefully set up gun they're not fun at full power. And .45-70 downloads well enough and is short enough there's not much reason to build something lighter.
 
The 45-70 cartridge first came out as the military round in 1873.H&R made a reproduction of the 1873 Trapdoor Springfield at the 100th anniversary in 1973 IIRC. That started the 'reinventing' of the 45-70 and created many happy shooters like me ! :D
 
my marlin dates to 1973 with serial # B001920, straight stock with 1/2 magizine tube and crecent butt plate. eastbank.
 
QUOTE: "When did Marlin rechamber their shooters for the 45/70? Was it in the 80s? I hate auto correct."

My sources indicate as early as 1972.
 
This is what my Guide Gun does with my handloads.



This is what it looked like new in 1998,



This is what I think about this comment - "The 45-70 round is the most over rated round sold today."

 
They are very popular here in Wyoming.
Great hunting rifles for anything in the timber or heavy brush.

I have sold my 45-70s but at times I miss them.
I even killed a few open country Mule Deer and a few antelope with my Marlins and Brownings when I owned them. They will do for more open country if you know how to hunt, but in the timber there is nothing better.
 
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