yournodaisy
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I have a Marlin 1894 Cowboy in 45 LC. Can I use the standard 45 colt jacketed bullets or do I have to use the lower pressured cowboy loads? Thanks.
Marlin 1894 Cowboy
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g.willikers
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It depends on how fast you want to shoot it - and actually hit something.
Like the Rifleman?
Like the Rifleman?
yournodaisy
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NO..I just wanted to use jacketed bullets and I don't reload. Might get some short range hunting use also.
Edward429451
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What pressure are these rifles rated for?
I've always thought about a 44 or 45 Lever Action would be fun to own.
I've always thought about a 44 or 45 Lever Action would be fun to own.
In actuality,
36,000 psi for the 44Mag
80% of that (28-29,000) for the Colt
http://www.lasc.us/fryxellmarlin1894.htm
(Literally 2X commercial max)
36,000 psi for the 44Mag
80% of that (28-29,000) for the Colt
http://www.lasc.us/fryxellmarlin1894.htm
(Literally 2X commercial max)
Caught me ! 
That said, see here: http://www.leverguns.com/articles/saami_pressures.htm)
SAAMI (45 Colt) = 25,000 CUP (normally the 'psi' equivalent to CUP is slightly higher)
Note also John Linebaugh's analysis:
The Ruger Blackhawks and Bisley models chambered for .45 Colt are
approximately 80% as strong as the same Ruger chambered for .44 magnum.
This means we can load the .45 Colt to 80% of the pressure of the
.44 Magnum round and still maintain the 100% safety level. 80% of
40,000 is 32,000.
http://www.customsixguns.com/writings/dissolving_the_myth.htm
Although "normal" 45 Colt commercial ammunition is down at the 8-12,000psi range, the Buffalo Bore products do get the most (and operate at that high 20's/low 30's ksi pressure) performance that modern 45 Colt/modern guns can handle within an industrial margin of safety.
That said, see here: http://www.leverguns.com/articles/saami_pressures.htm)
SAAMI (45 Colt) = 25,000 CUP (normally the 'psi' equivalent to CUP is slightly higher)
Note also John Linebaugh's analysis:
The Ruger Blackhawks and Bisley models chambered for .45 Colt are
approximately 80% as strong as the same Ruger chambered for .44 magnum.
This means we can load the .45 Colt to 80% of the pressure of the
.44 Magnum round and still maintain the 100% safety level. 80% of
40,000 is 32,000.
http://www.customsixguns.com/writings/dissolving_the_myth.htm
Although "normal" 45 Colt commercial ammunition is down at the 8-12,000psi range, the Buffalo Bore products do get the most (and operate at that high 20's/low 30's ksi pressure) performance that modern 45 Colt/modern guns can handle within an industrial margin of safety.
Ralph Allen
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I load my 1894CB up with stout reloads. Tried some 300 grain jacketed bullets of different styles. Accuracy fell way down with the jacketed bullets. This I believe is due to size difference between jacketed and lead cast bullets. I have some 255 to 325 grain lead bullets that are very accurate.
Ralph
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WhitSpurzon
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It doesn't take much shooting to completely pay for reloading kit for the 45 Colt. Casting makes it even more affordable.
My 1894 CB is probably the least finicky rifle I own. It'll shoot everything I feed it and shoot it well. Round ball on up to 325 grain WFN cast bullets. My go to load is a 270 grain Keith style SWC (RCBS mold) and even though the OAL is well beyond spec the 1894 CB cycles them without a hitch.
The Hornady 250 gr XTP seems to shoot very well in every 45 Colt -rifle and revolver - I've tried. Hot or standard velocity, very accurate.
My 1894 CB is probably the least finicky rifle I own. It'll shoot everything I feed it and shoot it well. Round ball on up to 325 grain WFN cast bullets. My go to load is a 270 grain Keith style SWC (RCBS mold) and even though the OAL is well beyond spec the 1894 CB cycles them without a hitch.
The Hornady 250 gr XTP seems to shoot very well in every 45 Colt -rifle and revolver - I've tried. Hot or standard velocity, very accurate.
Shotgun693
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I've killed a lot of WT Deer with a Marlin. Never used any load hotter than what I could have bought across the counter. I have had poor results using jacketed hollow points. A nice flat point lead bullet works fine.