Manhunt, go home and lock your doors

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bergie

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Less than a week after the Nebraska Unicameral shut down the latest attempt to legalize concealed carry, the NE State Patrol was carrying out "the biggest manhunt since Starkweather", schools were being closed and people were basically being told to go hide under the covers and the boogey man won't get you.

The 3 day manhunt ended in Wyoming (near Lusk, the same area mass murderer Starkweather was finally arrested) with the arrest of the Texas fugitive. The first encounter in NE was Sat. night when a deputy tried to arrest him at a convenience store. He escaped and led about 2 dozen officers on a chase, that apparently fell apart (not much detail has been released on this except that the S. P. needs a new multi-million $ radio system) when he stopped, pulled out a rifle and shot up a roadblock, injuring a Sheriff's deputy and a NE State trooper late last Sat. night.

Sunday a State Patrol spokesman stated "Anyone who would shoot a police officer would not think twice about shooting a citizen."

The Patrol officer's words were proved true on Mon. when the fugitive shot and killed a farmer and stole his truck.


Official law enforcement spokesmen were strongly against the proposed legislation to allow concealed carry.

One of the first comments I heard about the manhunt at work on Monday was "I bet there's a bunch of people wishing they could carry a gun about now."

Why don't they want us to be able to defend ourselves???

Wyoming doesn't sound much better than NE, the sheriff's department for that county had actually left a message on the answering machine of a neighbor of the ranch were the bg was arrested telling them, "Lock the doors and pull the drapes"

That is really going to stop someone who "wouldn't think twice about killing a civilian."

By the way, a rancher and his son talked the man into putting down his weapons, and invited him in to the house to eat. He was then arrested without further incident.
 
Wyoming is a "shall issue" state. If you aren't a felon and have fifty bucks the permit is yours. By the way, we lock the doors, pull the drapes, and sit in the corner with a 12 gauge shotgun and an evil grin...
 
Don't forget the ranchers son had a 270 on the goblin and was told by the father to do what was needed.

Have you ever been in the remote parts of Neb and Wy??? I work in the area of the manhunt and it's way way out there. We have a multi million dollar radio set up and even so sometimes they do not work due to the distances involved.

Don't kid yourself the locals were armed, trust me I see it daily :) :) :)

50 bucks!!!!!!!!!! the Sheriff told me it was $79, I feel cheated.
 
It's a little known fact that mass murderers can be stopped by drawn drapes and locked doors ...

This truism ranks right up there with folks waiting for a riot or other calamity before they consider buying ammunition for their 'safety rescue equipment'.

Now, Joey, you don't think the media would just forget to report that 270 now do you? ;)
 
Your forgetting this is WYOMING after all. Where 8 out of 10 homes have firearms and everybody know how to use them :D :D :D :D


By Becky Orr
Wyoming Tribune-Eagle

LUSK – The man sitting at Jim Kremers’ kitchen table Tuesday night was an uninvited and unwelcome guest: Charles Lannis Moses Jr.

The Texas survivalist, wanted for gunning down a Nebraska farmer and wounding two law enforcement officers – and the target of a three-day manhunt – found his way to Kremers’ ranch 20 miles north of Lusk.

Kremers, 63, and Justin, his 27-year-old son, got Moses to put down his guns and eat dinner until law enforcement officers arrived and arrested the fugitive.

Jim Kremers said Wednesday he and his family were aware from sheriff’s officers that Moses might be in their area Tuesday night. He and Justin were outside near a shed when their little dog "jumped through his hide," Jim Kremers said.

As they walked back to the house, they heard a man holler at them. They knew it was Moses.

"Your first thought is to hide if you can," Jim Kremers said.

The father and son ran to a cluster of trees near their house. Jim Kremers told his son to take the .270-caliber high-powered rifle he was carrying and circle on the south side behind Moses.

"And I said, ‘Justin, do what you have to.’ "

While Justin trained his rifle on Moses, the elder Kremers coaxed the fugitive to give up his guns.

"Moses said, ‘If I put my gun down, you’ll shoot me.’ I said, ‘No we won’t do that,’ " Jim Kremers recalled.

"Finally, I got him to set his rifle down. He says to me, ‘I am a God- fearing person. If I was going to shoot you, I would have already shot both of you.’ "

Although Moses had thrown down his assault rifle, he told Jim Kremers he was holding a .357 Magnum pistol.

"Finally, I knew I had to do some horsetrading to get him to put that pistol down," Jim Kremers said.

He offered Moses a deal: If the fugitive put down his pistol, Justin would put down his rifle. Moses agreed.

"(He) took three steps forward, embraced me and sobbed and sobbed and cried and sobbed," Jim Kremers said.

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Wednesday, Moses made his initial appearance before U.S. District Judge William C. Beaman in Cheyenne.

He was advised he was facing a federal charge of carjacking. The charge stems from an arrest warrant issued by the U.S. District Court in Nebraska.

Moses is charged with stealing a 2000 GMC extended cab pickup truck from Robert Sedlacek, 48, of Paxton, Neb., by "force, violence and intimidation" and that he shot and killed Sedlacek to get the truck.

He faces a possible $250,000 fine and/or life in prison or the death penalty if convicted.

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After Moses gave up Tuesday night, the Kremerses took him inside the house, cooked him a meal and dried his wet clothes.

"I’m not much of cook," Jim Kremers said, but threw together wieners, eggs, pork and beans and bread and butter.

Moses asked if he could use the phone to call his mother. He even asked for Jim Kremers’ number so his mother could call back and avoid a long-distance charge on Kremers’ bill.

"He was very kind and well- mannered," Jim Kremers said. "He was probably trying to con me."

Meanwhile, Justin went to his brother’s house to call for help. A game warden and sheriff’s officer in the area responded.

Jim Kremers said the only time he was anxious was when Moses yelled at them.

"That was my critical time," he said.

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In court Wednesday, Beaman set a preliminary hearing for Moses at 10:30 a.m. Friday.

As Moses sat in the courtroom next to attorney Laurence VanCourt, he did not look like a man accused of a deadly shooting spree. Instead, the 31-year-old construction worker appeared in court, dark hair matted.

He wore gray sweat pants and an ill-fitting brown plaid shirt that revealed a swath of bandages on his chest. He apparently was injured during a shoot-out with law officers in Nebraska.

U.S. marshals led Moses into the courtroom. His feet were shackled as he took small mincing steps. His hands were chained behind his back.

"I lost a lot of blood," he told his attorney, speaking in a whisper that could be heard in the first row of the gallery.

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In Keith County, Neb., Moses also faces a warrant for first-degree murder.

County Attorney Deborah Gilg said Moses is charged with first-degree murder and felony murder, use of a firearm in commission of a felony and felony theft.

He is accused of the murder of Sedlacek, 48, who was gunned down Monday on his family’s abandoned farmhouse eight miles from Paxton, Neb.

Gilg said Moses had apparently been hiding out at the farm.

Sedlacek and his 19-year-old daughter drove out to the property that day in separate vehicles. Both were doing farm work when they noticed unfamiliar tracks on the property. The daughter left and her father stayed to investigate.

Sedlacek called his father-in-law, Paul Fischer of Ogallala, on his cell phone from the farm. He told his father he was going to investigate the tracks.

"The next thing the father-in- law heard him say was: " ‘What are you doing here?’ " Gilg said.

The phone went dead.

Fischer called sheriff’s officers, who responded and found Sedlacek shot dead.

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Lincoln County, Neb., authorities have filed charges against Moses as well.

Those charges include attempted first-degree murder, use of a firearm to commit a felony and resisting arrest, said Lincoln County Attorney Jeff Meyer.

The charges were filed in connection with injuries to one of the two law enforcement officers Moses allegedly shot during a manhunt for him. The manhunt began late Saturday night near Sutherland, Neb.

Moses is accused of shooting State Patrolman Jeff Crymble in the abdomen and Lincoln County deputy Stan McKnight in the hand.

Crymble is at Great Plains Regional Medical Center in North Platte. He was initially in critical condition. McKnight is at the University of Nebraska Medical Center in Omaha. Both are recovering.

Moses also tried to shoot another Lincoln County sheriff’s officer, Corporal Casey Nelms. Nelms apparently wounded Moses during a scuffle that ended with gunfire, Meyer said.

Meyer plans to file at least one more attempted first-degree murder charge against Moses.

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Moses is from Texas, but had been "squatting at old farmhouses around Sutherland and North Platte (Neb.) for several weeks," Meyer said.

The manhunt began at about 11:30 p.m. Saturday as Nelms was preparing to start his shift as a patrol officer in Sutherland. He stopped at a gas station on I-80 and saw Moses pull in.

Nelms recognized Moses from information about outstanding warrants on him from Texas.

Lincoln County authorities also "wanted to question him on drug-related charges," involving possible sale of methamphetamine, Meyer said.

Moses tried to drive away when Nelms approached him. The two struggled and Moses fired a .22-caliber handgun.

The bullet did not hit Nelms. http://www.wyomingnews.com/story01.htm


[This message has been edited by Joey (edited February 18, 2000).]
 
So, was the guy being chased, and enevitaly arrested because he was a survivalist?
Why the heck is he being labeled a survivalist? That could be used to describe nearly anyone from the armed forces.
Is it because the last syllable of the word ends with ist. Anything the media uses that ends with "ist" is bad all right. Just ask them, they'll tell ya.
Federalist, shootist, votist, pist...

Best Regards,
Don

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The most foolish mistake we could make would be to allow the subjected people to carry arms; history shows that all conquerers who have allowed their subjected people to carry arms have prepared their own fall.
Adolf Hitler
 
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