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Truth Optional

By George F. Will
Sunday, December 10, 2000; Page B07



The defining achievement of Al Gore's career has been to transform the phrase "post-election campaign" from an oxymoron into a description of the future tactic of losers of close elections. The crowning paradox of this political year is that Americans learned more about the election's importance during the post-election month than they did during 10 pre-election months.

The election will determine whether the norms that defined the Clinton-Gore era will be transcended or become routine. Will there be an end to slash-and-burn politics, one cost of which is wear and tear on the rule of law?


Americans have seen David Boies, Gore's lawyer, inflict such wear and tear. Boies's behavior has not received proper scrutiny, partly because many round-heeled journalists have a crush on Boies, who plays them as effortlessly as Paganini played a Stradivarius. But to understand why the Boies coda to the Clinton-Gore era illustrates the continuity of the era, step back two Decembers.


In December 1998, during the House debate on articles of impeachment, Henry Hyde said the issue was not sex, it was lying under oath. The case for impeachment was: If a president is allowed to lie under oath in a civil proceeding, the justice system is in jeopardy, because it depends, utterly, on the truthfulness of advocates and witnesses. Which brings us to Gore's Florida month of living dangerously, and evidence that Clinton's and Gore's practice of playing fast and loose with truth and law is a communicable disease.


Florida's chaos deepened when Boies convinced Florida's credulous Supreme Court of a crucial falsehood. He said that in an Illinois election case 10 years ago, a judge ordered that stray, random--so-called "rogue"--dimples be counted as votes. But in fact such markings were not counted. The judge counted dimples as votes only if the voter left a pattern of dimples, indicating an intent to vote but a failure to follow directions. Florida's court, combining judicial activism and intellectual sloth, did not trouble itself with anything as recondite as independent verification of this assertion by an interested party.


Next, to influence the Broward County canvassing board, Boies had someone associated with the Illinois case awakened around midnight to send an affidavit confirming Boies's misrepresentation. A day later, the sender's memory refreshed, he sent a revised affidavit. But Boies's team did not advise Broward County of the second affidavit. Broward counted hundreds of Gore votes by following the misrepresented standards from the Chicago case.


Days later, in Judge N. Sanders Sauls's court, Boies, arguing that Palm Beach County's punch-card voting machines failed to register votes for Gore, presented as an expert witness a Yale statistician. The statistician testified that there are more "undervotes" (ballots on which no candidate for an office is voted for) when candidates for that office are listed in a ballot's left-hand column. To validate his theory, the expert relied on Palm Beach County's 1998 ballot. Boies's team signed and filed a "proffer" advising the court that their statistician would testify that "a closer inspection of the [1998] Palm Beach County ballot reveals that the senatorial race was recorded in the first column and the gubernatorial race in the second column."


But the senatorial and gubernatorial candidates were listed in the same column. The statistician never examined that 1998 ballot, closely or otherwise. He said he relied on "facts" supplied by Gore's legal team. Not wise.


In a sworn affidavit on the same subject, the statistician qualified his judgment in a way inconvenient to Boies's team, saying that to be certain of a particular conclusion that Boies's team liked, further study would be required. But Boies's team did not include the qualifying phrase in a document presenting the statistician's views to the court.


When Boies took Gore's stricken case from Judge Sauls's circuit court to Florida's Supreme Court, Boies said, "We accept the rule of law." How should one respond to that? Perhaps, "Awfully good of you." Or, in the spirit of Boies's client, "Well, that's one option."


Boies, like a pet that resembles its owner, resembles his client, who in turn resembles his patron, the president, whose spirit infused Gore's Florida war. When a few dozen mingled journalists and Republicans noisily protested the Miami-Dade canvassing board's decision to conduct a recount in private, some Democrats demanded an investigation by the U.S. assistant attorney general for civil rights, Bill Lann Lee. He occupies his office by virtue of an illegal use of a recess appointment by Bill Clinton. Making the appointment after the Senate refused to confirm Lee, Clinton breezily said, "I have done my best to work with the United States Senate in an entirely constitutional way. But . . . " But the constitutional way is just one option.
© 2000 The Washington Post Company


Dick
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The media is terribly embarrassing with their treatment of Boies. It reminds me of how they fawn over Hillary.

'Oh, Mr. Boies is sooooo smart.'

'Oh, Hillary is sooooo smart.'

We don't have many 'journalists' left. Just members of the liberal fan club. They are sooooo foolish.

Regards from AZ
 
I will agree that several years ago George Will was at best, ambivalent about guns and often swerving into the anti-zone. But recently he has been coming 'round to our side. He used to appear to think that the 2A applied to NG only. But then, just a few years ago, he began reciting law review articles written by Kopel, Malcom, and the rest and apparently became reacquainted with the vision of the Founders.

More recent, still, he has been citing "the social scientists" such as Lott and Kleck saying that it is "demonstrable" that armed citizens reduces crime.

George Will needs hard evidence to prove the things that we already knew.

I tape Sam&Cokie every Sunday. When I review it, I fast-forward and stop ony when George Will speaks. The rest is gibberish.

Rick
 
Hey that's good to know that George may be coming around. I haven't watched that show or any other of that type of show for at least a couple of years now. I can't tolerate the crap that comes out of the left. I 've broken too many remote controls watching those damn news shows, so I stopped.
 
http://www.foxnews.com/election_night/121100/post_boies.sml


WASHINGTON ? David Boies, the friendly legal hot shot who is heading Al Gore's court efforts, lost his temper yesterday ? snapping at interviewers after returning home to New York.
Boies blew his cool on NBC and Fox News yesterday ? a day after the U.S. Supreme Court handed him a big loss by halting Florida's ballot recount.

The exchanges occurred when TV questioners asked about the allegation by a conservative group that Boies knowingly submitted an incomplete deposition about voting machines in a Florida case last week.

"I'll bet you haven't even read that deposition," Boies snapped at Fox host Tony Snow, after being quizzed about the allegation that he misled the court.

Boies called Snow "irresponsible." Snow insisted he did read the deposition, although he did not offer any specifics from it.

"I think one of the unfortunate things is when people in the press begin to pick up reports, don't even bother to look at the evidence, and then repeat unfounded allegations," Boies said.

On NBC's "Meet the Press," Boies and host Tim Russert talked over one another repeatedly until ending the conversation on a polite note midway through the show.

"To suggest that somehow we submitted [an edited deposition] to the Florida Supreme Court simply has no basis in fact," Boies told Russert, who followed the same line of questioning.

Warming up, Boies called the allegation a "reckless and irresponsible ad hominem attack" and flashed Russert a nasty look when the edgy host asked Boies if he was "confident" he'd escape a misconduct ruling.

"I am very confident," Boies said.

Boies, who hit the chat shows yesterday prior to today's Supreme Court showdown, did his talking from the living room of his Armonk, N.Y., home. He could not be reached for comment.

Meanwhile yesterday, some Democrats continued to attack the Supreme Court ? labeling right-leaning judges as "a partisan arm of the Bush campaign," said ex-White House aide Lanny Davis.

Outside the Supreme Court, crowds began gathering Saturday alongside the south entrance, hoping to gain one of an expected 50 seats set aside for the public to observe today's hearing.
 
walangkatapat

George Will is agianst guns;however, he properly interprets the 2nd Amendment as an individual right and makes no bones about either.

madison
 
RickD

<<I tape Sam&Cokie every Sunday. When I review it, I fast-forward and stop ony when George Will speaks. The rest is gibberish>>

I told my wife THAT very thing yesterday. I just wait for G. Will

madison
 
At least George Will got it right in his assertion that Boies has used miselading or incorrect depositions/affidavits in his testimony. Much of his success with the Broward Election Board and the Florida Supreme Court was based on the precedent that Illinois had allowed dimpled chads to be counted as vots in an earlier election. The only problem is, THEY DID NOT ALLOW the dimpled chads to be counted as votes. So most of his success so far has been based on a lie. Or failure to check his facts, if you want to be generous.

I am so pleased to see Will cover this. It has been mentioned on Rush and Michael Regan radio shows. Reagan says it was covered on CSPAN, but I did not see it there.
 
Sam and George Stuffmyguttswiththis are two of the most despicable commentators I have ever seen. Biased and Sam is as dumb as corn chowder.

George once said it is obvious that more guns cause the violence. Did he ever read the literature. NO.
 
George Will is one of those effete, sissified, holier-then-thou commentators who, along with his communistnazi media friends, hates, loathes and despises the Second Amendment, gun owners, self defense, the Bill of Rights, and serfs, in general.

He makes a perfect fop for his good buddy, Sam I'd-Cower-Under-The-Bed Donaldson. Another raving yellow coward, just like Will.

Will has repeatedly called for the abolition of the Second Amendment, and the confiscation of all our guns. That would necessarily entail the destruction of the Constitution and the establishment of a Police State, which is what he and his ilk, want. Afteral, don't they, the Annointed, know what's good for us serfs??

I have no more respect for Will than I do for the rest of the Mega Millionaire Marxist pap dispensers in the Media. They are all gutless, wimpy peas-in-a-pod.

J.B.
 
Jay Baker

G. Will at least calls for the repeal of the 2nd BEFORE thinking he can take our guns. That is far more than the others. Sure he thinks they should 'go away'; however, he respects the 2nd as an individual right. I can at least respect that.

madison

A reply G. Will wrote to 'A Nation of Cowards' essay. It at least made him stop. G. Will also tore into those that Say Warren Burger stated that the 2nd is a myth perpetuated by the NRA. He pointed out Burger was never wrote such an opnion as a justice. He also talked about how our founders 'connonized' the RKBA in the 2nd. If I find that article, I will post, but here is the reply to the 'A Nation of Cowards' essay:

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Bridge/2431/will.html
 
"loathes and despises the Second Amendment, gun owners, self defense, the Bill of Rights,"

Your 2A comments on George Will run counter to what I have heard him say on "This Week."

Rick
 
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